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  1. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    I’m afraid this is a nonsensical argument. You are insisting that resurrection MUST produce a physical change to be called a resurrection. No scripture supports that idea, only presumed bias. You’re also suggesting that any resurrection of the soul/spirit, would and must mean that our...
  2. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    COULD Jesus have done that? Sure, absolutely. DID he? We are not told that. All we are told in other scriptures is that ‘this mortal (or corruptible) will put on immortality (or incorruptible) AT his return. So, in the absence of proof of one, and the presence of proof of the other, I’d say...
  3. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    Lol! You know…it took me longer than it should have to figure out what you were talking about! I’m like “what cat? There’s no reference to a cat in my post!” *face palm* But yes, I do love it, and sometimes it feels…so relevant!
  4. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    Hi…sorry its taken me some time to get back to you. I follow you more now, thank you. And yes, i would say I agree…it is most encouraging! How blessed we are to live after Christ, having access in him!
  5. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    Being able to come up with a “logical” outworking for what you think to be a chain of events is, perhaps, fine. Most people won’t believe something unless they can make it fit logically. The problem, however, with just saying “I can see how that might work, logically” still doesn’t mean that it...
  6. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    As I’ve said before…Christ raising people, like Lazarus, from the dead, is not feasible to consider it truly resurrection. First, because 1 Cor 15 tells us that Christ is the ‘first fruits’ of this sort of resurrection. Therefore anyone given a “new, resurrection body” before Christ was raised...
  7. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    I’m sorry, but…what?! “The second birth (born again) has literally nothing whatsoever to do with our soul, our body, nor our spirit”. That is…farcical. By saying that becoming born again affects neither spirit NOR body, you’ve basically just made the statement that being born again does...
  8. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    I know the Matt 27 account. I also know Jesus ‘raised from the dead’ many during his ministry. The thing we must ask ourselves…were those ‘resurrections’ in the sense that those people never again died because they had received their new resurrection bodies? Nothing in scripture gives us leave...
  9. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    For very good reason!
  10. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    Well, I suppose if you’re looking at the ‘cloud’ as a symbolic representation of God’s ‘other-ness’ this would hold. And what I mean by that is…God is often revealed ‘in cloud’ or with clouds. It’s as if the cloud hides the divinity from us, those who would perish in his presence. Thus, in that...
  11. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    I’m fairly certain I’ve been over most of this in a post just earlier today, so there is little to no point in cluttering things up by adding more of the same arguments. I’m sure you’ll address your understandings/view on that previous post.
  12. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    There is a big difference between taking God’s word “literally” and taking it as true. For something to be ‘symbolic’ does not make it ‘untrue’. For example, to use the same analogy as before, if I said it was raining “cats and dogs”, when it was raining torrents, am I lying? I’m not. I’m using...
  13. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    Is this seriously your view? It’s completely nonsensical. First, what does it say: Revelation 20:8 [8] and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. Alright. First off…how...
  14. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    But this is exactly my point. Yes, we existed fleshly before our new birth. And yes, all those unsaved do as well. But the bible is clear that before we were “In Christ” we were “dead in our sins” (Eph 2:1-6). We may have had the ‘life’ of air within our bodies, but we didn’t know true...
  15. Naomi25

    Why I believe in the rapture.

    Is it? How do you know this? Are you told specifically? All we know absolutely is what we are told in Rev 20. And that is: the second death is the lake of fire (eternal judgment and punishment) and that he who ‘shares in the first resurrection’ will not suffer or fear the second death. All I’m...
  16. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    Mmm. Maybe I can see where you’re going with this, but…personally I just don’t know that the text strictly calls for us to make that connection. Not here. John 16 focuses in on the necessity of Christ leaving after his work is done, and the sending of the Helper. And the work of the ‘Helper’...
  17. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    Hello again! Phew…weighty topic. I’ll do my best to explain how I see this. The terms “coming on the clouds” is a reference to Daniel, specifically, and the coming of the ‘son of man’. Daniel 7:13-14 [13] “I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came...
  18. Naomi25

    Daniel's (Little Horn) Abomination In Desolation, A (Future) Event Unfulfilled

    Yes, rather absurd…but I’m just forwarding on what I know some believe. The creatures have “long hair” you see…thus we must expect, if they’re really helicopters, that John saw women piloting them. It makes perfect sense. To some.
  19. Naomi25

    Poll: Tattoo art - Christian perspectives: Fight it? Ignore it? appreciate/embrace it?

    She hasn’t said that she regrets it, so I suppose she’s happy with it…it doesn’t really come up in conversation.