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  1. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The 144,000 and the two witnesses are protected by God. The wilderness is space? Where did you dig that one up? Gabriel saw and informed Daniel. The cross is ancient history. Gabriel told Daniel things right till the end. The final great throne judgment is at the end of the 1000 years. The...
  2. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So you think the abomination is after Jesus has already returned to earth. OK. What can I say? The 3 1/2 yr great tribulation is not adding time, it is half the seven years.
  3. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    You admit insertion then. OK. Both of those chapters focus on the end time, not some Greek leader of the Israel area thousands of years ago. Also, just because a verse says things are finally wrapped up in the end does not mean a trumpet blew for centuries or whatever you were trying to say...
  4. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Yet you insert trumpets in Dan when none were mentioned. No? What is it about then you pretending it is about trumpets? No, the end time is where Dan focused and the end of transgressions, everlasting righteousness and such. No one denies that the chapter talks of that punk for a bit. It...
  5. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    It seems you are saying that the Jews will mourn once their sacrifice is taken away for a month. If so, that works out to what I was thinking. It will likely take about a month to set up the abomination once the sacrifice is taken away. Then, once people see it up and running and the abomination...
  6. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The verse mentions from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination set up. We have the woman fleeing after the abomination is seen. We have the witnesses doing their thing for a certain time. That time is 1260 days. The time when the extra time was mentioned was in...
  7. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Why is that a point rather than fiction? Proof? We know how Jesus was killed. By the way which cross in Rev 10 are you referring to? Not in any way. That old guy in ancient history could not possibly have fulfilled anything to do with ending the transgression and bringing in everlasting...
  8. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    We were talking about trumpets. Be honest. Then from the daily sacrifice to the end would be 1290 days I guess. But since we have the timing a few ways from the time the woman flees and such, the 1260 days from then to the end is known. A known quantity in the equation. In the one verse...
  9. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So all the other sets of seven are years but the last week is days? Says who? What if the Abomination took say, a month to set up? Do you think a trumpet blows all month long? The abomination is in the midst of the week.
  10. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    If Jesus entered Jerusalem and was killed AFTER that seems to do it.
  11. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No He was not. That week is still to come. Jesus was cut off in the 69th week. Clearly. Yes it was and that is why the time was divided clearly into seven weeks, Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to...
  12. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Right it is not in the end time/last seven years that Jesus was killed. No the last seven years has not started yet and when it does in the middle of THAT seven years is when the abomination is set up. There is only one seven year week left after Jesus is cut off. That has not happened yet...
  13. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The part after He dies and brings in everlasting righteousness is also there. He died, and that was in the first 69 weeks. Except you can't support that and probably don't even know which prince is what.
  14. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    OK, that was clear. The last half of the seven years is not part of the seven years whatsoever. Fine. Insults aside, no, the bible tells us it is after we see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet. Apparently many people cannot hear what Dan said. You thought the...
  15. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Who said it was? Seven years takes, well, seven years to be over. It is not free of death in the 1000 year reign, people can still die as I already provided scripture for. What did you think the nations we rule over in the millennium were composed of, zombies? Bingo. At least not a planet...
  16. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Nice story. Proof? No no else eh? just ol Jacob. Interesting. Verse? Let;s look at a trumpet and see if Jacob is given an honorable mentch. Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the...
  17. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I see. No nations full of people to rule over then? Yes, there is armies gathered. Some of...who? The army? No. The rest of the planet? Well quite a bit of people remain. Nations. Right, from countries all over the world some people come to fight. That does not mean all people on earth go...
  18. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Looking at your quote I did not see "sixth seal" anywhere. Why bring it up? The tribulation does end as soon as Jesus returns to the earth. So....?
  19. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No He has come to make it possible for them to accept Jesus. The turn from ungodliness thingie only comes after they are saved. He did all He could. The rest is up to them. Meanwhile they remain in unbelief and sin. They will remain that way until they accept Jesus in the end. Why make stuff...