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Good point about Israel. I never thought about that, but there it is. It's been there for a few thousand years now! Thanks.

I never said, "...the logos was a God." I read it exactly as written, "...the logos was God." Very simple declaration. Logos is another name for God, specifically Yahweh. Jesus is not Yahweh. A couple of your own references: A. T. Robertson: "So in John 1:1 theos en ho logos the meaning has to...

God was in Christ (2 Cor 5:19) just as Christ is in us (Col 1:27). Wherever you are, it is God in Christ in you there also. In other words, it could also be said of any Christian that wherever they are it is, "God with us."

I can see John saying, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." What I don't see is, "In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God" I also don't see, "...and Jesus became flesh" in John 1:14. I took the time and effort to learn...

It must make Trinitarians wonder who God's Father is! Then there's the times the scriptures talks about the God of Jesus, pretty much in all of the salutations of Paul's epistles. Jesus even mention his God a few other times. He even says it's the same God we all have. So you gotta wonder who...

How does the context change the simple declarations that both Jesus and Paul made, saying that the Father is the only true God? Perhaps you could address some of the remote context I mentioned a while ago that totally agree with Jesus not being God. Remember, God knew things Jesus didn't know...

I hardly said anything. I just quoted a few scriptures. Israel is not our father. That would be Abraham. Rom 4:11, And he (Abraham) received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which [he had yet] being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that...

If you want to stick with that, then I'm afraid that you have to accept that you don't believe Jesus nor Paul, because both said in grade school reading level that the Father is the only true God. As you correctly said, Jesus is not the Father, so he can't be God. John 17:3, And this is life...

Not sure what you are asking about the Gnostic pendulum. Perhaps I should have been more clear, but I'm not talking about human logic. I was trying to say that God Himself is the epitome of logic. In fact I see no human logic whatsoever in the Bible.

Gal 3:1-3, 1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are...

You don't have to leave me alone. I know my sins and I thank God for forgiving me and cleansing me from all unrighteousness when I confess them to Him (1 John 1:3). 1 Cor 4:3-5, 3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine...

Well, there is this, Gal 3:1-3, 1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the...

No. God is the epitome of logic. John 1:1 even says straight out that, "...and the word (logos, logic) was God." Seems logical enough to me. :) The Gnostics were great at elevating spiritualism above logic. One had to abandon logic and be "initiated into the mysteries" to understand God.

I never heard that "Geez" is using God's name in vain. I always took it as a shortened "Gee whiz," but thanks for pointing out the speck in my eye. While the ten commandments were written to Israel and not the church, we can still learn from them (Romans 15:4). Maybe I get a bit snarky...

1) Only the Father is God 2) Jesus is not the Father 3) Jesus is not God Where's the break in logic there? Changing #3 to "Jesus is God" is pretty much the epitome of illogical. Therefore (being logical :)), one must abandon logic to say Jesus is God. Do you not see the irony of John 1 using...

I see what you are saying, but my perception of myself does not negate how God sees me. I, like Jesus, trust His doctrine and will over my own. If He says I'm as righteous as He is, them that's what I confess. No caveats required nor introduced. Rom 3:21-22, 21 But now the righteousness of God...

I absolutely agree with you about context, but how would the context change the simple statement that only the Father is God? If anything, the overall context that Jesus is the son of God (never called God the Son), would indicate that Jesus is not the Father and therefore not the true God. Of...

Well, I never see "God the Son" in the scriptures, but I understand you to be saying that Jesus is the son, not the Father. Both Paul and Jesus himself, said that the Father is the only true God. How then is the son God? That's quite a leap to say that God sending Jesus implies Jesus is God...

With the exception of John the Baptist, God did give holy spirit by measure to certain folks before Pentecost. After Pentecost it is Christ in us (Col 1:27) without any indication that it is only part of Christ. So either not all of the Godhead dwelt in Christ, or not all of Christ dwells in...

According to the original Greek, John 1:14 actually says, "...and the word tabernacled in us..." In the OT God first tabernacled in a tent. Later He tabernacled in the Temple. Now He tabernacles in us. God always promised He'd do that. As you pointed out, John declared the Word was God. No need...