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This should be a clue when the Church began (at least it was for me, bringing me out of Mid Acts Dispensationalism)... Acts 20:28 ESV [28] Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained...

Thanks Chris, I'll take a look at it later. But just looking at the title without looking at the article, my guess is that it is Bullingerism, where the Church didn't start until Acts 28, instead of Acts 2, and thus there is no need for baptism or the Lord's Supper. Bullinger was gifted with the...

That makes no sense. Are you saying our bodies first get raptured, then our spirit? Or are you saying our spirits are already seated in heavenly places with our bodies to follow or the rapture happens after Christ's resurrection? Maybe a few Scriptures on your part will be helpful.

I gave you Scripture in #148 and you said 'this is typical for dispies' in #149. Then in #155 you say I don't have Scripture. Please make up your mind.

Au Contraire, you have shifted the rapture from sometime before the resurrection before the last day to the last day. (See how silly this can get?)

I 'bolded' my response in #148 to help clarify it for you.

The air may be thin, but at least it's real and not imaginary... 1 Thessalonians 4:17 ESV [17] Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Only if one is confused about directions like 'up' and 'down'. lol

Our coming to Him is not a 2nd Coming of Christ. Ours (rapture) is heavenward, His 2nd Coming is earthbound.

So those descended through Jacob may have lived like pagans in their unbelief but they were still Jews and the original promises are still extended. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts...

Guess there are no Jewesses. Actually physical Jew are those descended from Abraham thru Isaac through Jacob...remember the 12 Tribes?

Oh, you've noticed that too? LOL

Newsflash: There still are 'genuinely circumcised Jews' existing. Where do you make this stuff up? LOL

Got it. So you are saying blindness has happened to Jesus since in your formula Jesus always equals Israel... For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of...

As usual, you completely missed my point that 'Paul does not always refer to believers as Israel' and instead, you introduced a red herring.

Not always. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (Rom 11:25)

Ok, biblical ping-pong lol... Matthew 16:18 KJV [18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (notice the future tense, 'I WILL build...)

Acts 20:28 KJV [28] Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. It should be obvious.

Easter is not about sacrifice but Good Friday is...His sacrifice for our sins. Resurrection Sunday is about victory... His victory over death and the grave,..it's also about new life, a life we can take part in, in serving our neighbors. In short it's about Him! Not us.

I see, at the bottom of this, 'reason, logic and common sense' are the Supreme Judge, passing a ruling on God's Word as "Guilty! on the grounds of being Nonsense." See where that gets a person on the Day of Judgment. You are playing on the field of Empiricism, which is eye oriented and deals...