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Sure. Okay. That can be yours and John's little secret.

I love my daughter, I really do....but I'm not sure 'wise' is something I could call her. She's impulsive...ADD will do that. And when she wants something, she turns into a bull with hyperfocus. :rolleyes: Praying wisdom will come!

Does he SAY this "PRESENT" world? Or is that you putting words in his mouth in an attempt to make your own point? Please. Deal with all the passages that speak of the Kingdom being a current reality...of Christ reigning now. You can quote all the other verses you like, but you still have to do...

So. What you are saying is that a verse from Revelation...a book that is written in an apocolyptic genre, which uses symbolic and poetic language to describe truths, must be taken in a strictly literal context and cancel out all the other verses you have yet to comment on. You know, the ones...

Forgive me, but...are you serious? The book of Revelation does, most certainly, describe terrors and final Judgement...but for non-believers...thus the hope and encouragement for the Saints. For example: "Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who...

"The context is for today only?" I'm sorry, but that is simply inaccurate. The idea that Jesus had John write down several letters for Churches that existed at the time, then followed those with a book that gave a great deal of encouragement to 'saints' (people belonging to Christ) struggling...

You claim that John 18:33-36 is proof that Christ's Kingdom is of a future time and order, but I disagree. The Jews had a misconception about what their coming Messiah would do, and bring. They had the expectation that he would sweep in and lead a movement that would defeat Israels enemies...

Absolutely Christ reigns over and through his church. But...that's not all, according to scripture. ..that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name...

Toss in a Kiwi and it would make for a pretty interesting conversation!

Lol! Yes, it can get tricky. Especially if they come in halfway through a conversation...or if you're trying to follow the logic from their side of things...in other words, you're actually trying to point out that how they see things doesn't add up, but you do it by following the same line of...

Here in Australia NSW, she needs to be 18 for a tattoo. She can be younger than that to become engaged. She can be married younger than 18 with parental approval, but without it she needs to wait til she's 18. Happily, she's almost 18 and isn't planning to marry until after that date. She and...

I never said that Christ 'would stay by the Father's side and not come back'. And the fact that he does come back does not relegate the idea of him ruling now, especially since we have bible verses that tell us that he is indeed doing that very thing. Except, that's not what it says, is it? If...

No. Although rather ironically, she's old enough to become engaged. Kids...they keep you on your toes, huh?

Ah.....I did? Sorry, there was no conscious reference to you... But yes, I agree...'Saint' means 'Saint'...member of Christ's body. People who try and make it something else in Revelation must provide evidence that I think isn't there to prove it means something else.

There is SOMETHING now. ..that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. -Ephesians...

You may not have read all of my posts, but I too believe that the 'putting of immortality' occurs at his return. I just happen to believe that this event is also after the 'millennium'...as in, the millennium is most likely now, not some future event. Again, if you read my posts above, you'll...

I voted for #1 because I can imagine that people could use an interesting tattoo to start a conversation. And goodness knows God can and does use anything. But to be perfectly honest, its just not relevant in my life. I live in a small, mostly conservative town. My large, extended family doesn't...

I'm not sure the point of the matter is 'where they go' after death during this particular period. It was IF scripture makes a clear delineation between Church/Saints in the NT, and if anything, including Revelation, gives us leave to suspect there is a departure of one group to single out the...

Indeed they are: but what are "tribulation saints"? Revelation does not specify that the term "saint" is different to the term "saint" used anywhere else in the NT, which is just a reference to 'Christian'. NT teaching tells all Christians that they must expect tribulation in this world (John...