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There is a difference between the tribulation and the wrath of God. The tribulation is OVER at the 6th seal and then the wrath of God begins. I don't know how you can study Revelation all these years and not understand that.

Oh my. The seventh seal is AFTER the 6th seal. The seventh seal is the wrath of God. It happens immediately after the tribulation.

So what do you discern that the 200,000,000 signifies????????????

The Bible I'm reading says no man can learn that song but the 144,000.....................Which are redeemed FROM the earth You just can't admit that those 144,000 are raptured off that mountain to heaven. You obviously don't understand what first fruits are. You harvest the first fruits. They...

I would say that 200,000,000 signifies 200,00,000. Just like 144,000 signifies 144,000. If you have come up with a different conclusion I'd love to hear it.

They have obviously LEARNED the song. The real question is ...........Are the 144,000 redeemed from the earth or are they still on the mountain?

What a load. You offer a challenge and when I use the word to easily dispatch what you are saying, you can only stoop to personal attacks.

LOL. That made me laugh. I didn't avoid that fact as the fact is, the 144,000 are redeemed FROM the earth, not on the earth. You are avoiding the fact that the Church is not appointed to wrath and yet you have them going through the wrath of God in what you believe. You are also avoiding the...

You want to leave that 144,000 on that mountain top, but the Word says that they are first fruits.............................. which were redeemed from the earth. Simple

When I see comments like this, I know you haven't taken the time to do any RE-search. You are taking other people's word for this nonsense. Instead, you listen to those that did not believe the Word of God, that God would restore Israel as a nation. However, Darby was correct and Israel was...

The mountain is on earth. Simple. The are redeemed FROM THE EARTH. Simple They are before the throne. The throne is in heaven. Simple I'm not sure why you want to complicate everything when it is so simple. Rev 14 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four...

Or we can except the written Word of God and understand that they are 144,000 which is 12,000 from each tribe. There is no need to dream things up when the answer is already given. It simply comes to accepting what is written or not and coming up with our own ideas. As always I will go with the...

You must have missed this scripture. Revelation 19 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Obviously, they are believing Jews as after the Church is raptured............before the tribulation..........the Jews have their blindness removed. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in...

Easily proven wrong. Paul talks of the dead rising first and the alive remain which is the grain harvest. Then he talks of the dead and alive being changed at the same time, in the twinkling of an eye which is in the fruit harvest. Jesus talks of two comings, one as the days of Noah and one as...

The seals happen during the tribulation. The trumpets happen during the wrath of God. As I have said before, your beliefs are unscriptural as you have the Church going through the wrath of God and we are not appointed to wrath. Simple

"But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man." "But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to...

You don't understand what you are reading Doug. You are trying separate this event this as a separate event that happens in Rev 15. This event happens when Jesus comes to earth with the armies of heaven. Maybe this will help. Revelation 19 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him...

The Word says nothing about unbelieving Jews. These are your words and your incorrect conclusion. As I showed you in Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel...

First off, I see the Church in heaven in Revelation 5. We are told in Rev. 3 that some can escape the hour of testing and that there is a door that no man can open or close. Secondly, the woman is Israel. Her seed is the 12 tribes across the earth. A person is a Jew if their mother is Jewish...