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I wouldn't go so far as to say that. I was just pointing out the normal rules of logic that trinitarians apparently deny. I didn't make up the rules of logic, nor do I say what Trinitarians say. I'm just putting 2 and 2 together. Does the diagram make logical sense or not? You may or may not...

How can you reason with anyone who does not see the total disconnect in this "proof" diagram? Apparently, it is no longer true that 3 things equal to the same thing are equal to each other. If that's true, words have no meaning whatsoever. Given that, how can any meaningful conversation be...

True. That's normally the case. However, as with logic in general, it apparently does not apply to the trinity. Why do 3 things equal to the same thing equal each other in your post, but not in this diagram? I would think either your post is illogical or this diagrammatic explanation of the...

Well, I have to say I lean towards the scholarly end of the scale. God purified every single word 7 times. Wouldn't you think it would deserve the same care in reading those words? But you don't have to be a scholar to learn about textual transmission and see how it lead to the Bible you are...

You don't need to be a scholar to learn that 1 John 5:7 is a forgery. Look at the old texts for yourself. You won't find it except for one or two texts written in the 15th century. The only reason it exists in those texts is because the translator wanted to insert his own belief in the trinity...

Why bother if my fate is sealed? God either chose me or He didn't. Nothing you can say will change that. My salvation or damnation is completely out of your hands. If I'm damned then you are fighting against God in any attempt to bring me to the true gospel. God determined my eyes are either...

I wonder if Calvin was just playing a big joke on everybody when he came up with his off the wall ideas. That would seem more plausible than him actually believing what he said. If we don't have choice, why would God have bothered to have given us the scriptures? If Calvin was right, It's not...

Deut 30:19, I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That word "choose" is the Hebrew word "bachar." It's used 163 other times in the OT. Just saying. :)

Why the rebuke? Apparently, according to you and Calvin, I had no choice in what I said. You can't possibly change my mind. I'm just destined to failure I guess. Yikes! What a sad doctrine. But, I don't hold to it, so I'm not worried.

Of course! I was just speaking colloquially.

Anything that happened in the past could happen again. It's not God's idea, but He gave us free will and as Paul said, "...there is no good thing in the flesh..." It'll all get resolved in the end though.

Are you standing behind the word of God that you don't really care about? You seem to have no concern about whether the word in 1 Timothy is "Theos" or "Os." I know you don't because it would take some time before you could draw a conclusion. I'd venture to say you've put no time into it...

Wow! I'm luckier than I thought. You have to wonder about any institution that would do something like that. Doesn't seem the the prime source for truth to say the least.

Why do you condemn me for pointing out what is well known by virtually anyone that looks into the matter? Do you not care to look into it for yourself? If not, that shows a distinct lack of respect for God's word and I have to wonder by what authority you pronounce your judgments.

Those are good translations. I had someone one tell me yesterday that John 17 is proof of the trinity. To me, the whole chapter is a beautiful prayer from a son to his Father, which anywhere by trinityville would be one person talking to another person. Sounds like two people to me. In...

Well, maybe that's a figure of speech and not meant to be taken literally. I think it is, because every morning when my wife and I get out of bed and there are two distinct lumps in the mattress. :)

Precisely. Luckily for us Jesus didn't make the same mistake as Adam! Otherwise we'd still be waiting for redemption.

This is like a son not able to be his own father. In this case it is that Christ's body can't also be his bride. Do you know of any other husband that is his own bride? I don't. Seems like they are two different people, just like a father and son. We need to dig a little deeper to get to the...

Whatever you think Philippians 2:6 says, just know that verse 5 says you should think the same way. Me? I wouldn't want to think I'm actually God, but that's just me. Everybody makes their own choices.

All of the earlier Greek texts do not say, ...God was manifested..." They say, "...which was manifested..." "God" in Greek is θεός, whereas "which" is ός. As you can see, they are kind of close to each other. It was not until around the 8th century that the texts said θεός. Prior to that they...