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So if you agree with me that the Church wasn't built on Peter alone, why didn't you say so in post #78? It would've saved a lot of time just to simply agree with me on that point. Yet, I see all these quotes from you talking about how the Church was built on Peter but never a mention of the...

No he didn't. He said thou art peter and upon this rock... Yes I know all the arguments and word replacements folks give. But the rock Jesus built his church on was the revealtion that Jesus was the Christ, the son of the living God. That is a reoccuring theme throughout the NT, yet no...

If you are going to try to put it in context then quote the whole verse and the verses around it. Luke 22:25-28 KJV And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. [26] But ye shall not be so: but...

Not a very original question but always an interesting one. Wouldn't we all like to know! I can't possibly provide an answer, but I can give some thoughts. I say both. I think it is a destination in that some may have not arrived there but will. I think it is a state of being in that it...

I've seen this one come up a few times by people insist Peter was the leader and I find it incredibly ironic. Because it came after the disciples were arguing who was the greatest and Jesus shut down that whole idea right away! Its also ironic because none of those who are trying to make Peter...

Claiming they lack merit and suggesting they are not in proper context without proving it is not going to convince me that you are right. I have read the list of Petrr's accolades, not that I needed such... I was already aware of them and am a fan of Peter. But these verses clearly say the...

Marymog I have read that verse and many of the professional and forum commentaries. I am not convinced Jesus was saying he would build his Church on Peter. He was speaking of the revelation Peter gave. Have you considered 1 Cor 3:10-11 where Paul speaks of himself building the foundation and...

That is completely irrelevant to what you quoted. You are saying "so what" to my quote which states half of acts is following Paul. What you fail to acknowledge is the point I was making. That point is that mention of names means nothing. It is not an indicator of importance. Peter did...

Well I think that's a bit of a stretch to make a point. But it does make a point. Peter was a great man of God, but yes... He did make MANY mistakes and received a lot of rebukes. His boldness... Even when wrong, is why Jesus used him like he did.

I have a few problems with some of the arguements put forth on this thread. I would like to discuss a few of them. I will start wth just one: There has been a claim that Peter's name appears more than anyone else's in the NT. So what? Yea its a great thing. But that really isn't a...

Why bring this up in a thread about the last supper? I have my thoughts about Sunday services and it comes down to I don't have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with any day being right for Church. I am more concerned with what truth is being preached than what day it is. For the...

This is only a small bit of what I don't understand about your post. First, I am not offended by a challenge. I never have been offended by a challenge as long as its not done as a slap in the face. The old me would get just as down and dirty as the challenger gets... Eye for an eye...

Cool... For the most part I agree with you. Rev 20 is tricky. But you do have it right as far as I can see.

Yea... Umm. Were you talking to me? Cause your arguements haven't anything to do with what I was discussing.

VictoryinJesus, Without agreeing or disagreeing, I appreciate your post and don't think its too far fetched. Jesus did indeed speak of unknown things. After all, it was the start of a new covenent!

I don't totally disagree. In fact they have been given the opportunity and I believe they accepted. No "will be" about it. Are they first? No. They are last. But... Does that really matter? The background reasoning is that Jesus told the parable of the rich man and Lazurus beiing in hell...

Well he's right... The law was given by Moses but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. I know that grace is found 37 times (more or less). But only Noah found grace in God's eyes before the Law was given. So sure... Technically you could say that's not true, but in context it means he and...

Well, prophets are good but the Bible says the law and the prophets were until John. Paul said that he was happy the apostles were picked last. John (the Revelator), Paul, Peter and of course Jesus gave prophecy. But John the Baptist was the last (and greatest) prophet. I am not a follower...

I don't like ALF. He eats kitties. I like kitties.

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;