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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Symbols do not take away from the reality they add to it. If God says the ark was in a temple, then in the temple it was. Every eye will see Him when He returns. All communities. Have you some point? He will be seen by all. Did you think they would not realize He was glorious? Don't project...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The rituals represented in the box were for our benefit. Jesus is a real Person, and the ark is just an object.
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    You think heaven is not good then? Jesus came to give us life, the law brought death. This is news? I would think that remembering the ten commandments in heaven is not some endless struggle to try to keep them. They are probably just the normal course of life there and ways we live having...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Yes, but the ark is not here today. No one is telling me to carry the ark to Jerusalem. Covered in last post Show the post # you think we forgot. What chapters are supposed to be the same? Explain why a same or different context is relevant there? You think you can nail a ghost to a tree...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The men called the two olive trees are not trees. So if the woman is Israel, she is not a woman. Yet when Mary (who is now in heaven of course) had Jesus she was bathed or clothed in His spirit. He is referred to as the sun as well. But at the same time she was part of Israel, who seems to be...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The angels were representations of angels. Not redeemed people actually. Jesus did have mercy but was not a seat! Every eye will see Him actually. Not some 'Christ community'! It says no such thing though. Have a look. Do show us where it says any such thing? Revelation 11:19 And the...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The lessons for very ancient times, yes. How about up to date lessons? For example if God took the ark to heaven the same time He cliced that veil from top to bottom, is there not a lesson in the power of God in that? Is the removal of what symbolized His presence behind that veil not a great...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Can we rule it out? Why? Since she bore Jesus, I don't think 'will she be' fits. When things are pictured there is a reason. Nor is having some symbols an excuse to wave away the rest of the bible or book. An angel is an angel for example. A city with walls is a city with wall, etc. If Israel...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The lesson of an ark that is 'lost' is not that anything is with us! If the ark is in heaven then there are lots of lessons, such as that God is real and took it there. You have an opinion. The prophesies of what will unfold are clear as a bell though. The trick is believing them. I can...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The ark is a treasure of heaven, not the USA, so it will not be anywhere in the piles of dusty rubbish there.
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Me too. What a great memorial and reminder to future generations and all the universe. That makes me think that there will not just be amazing mansions in heaven, but also probably some really great museums, memorials and places of remembrance.
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    I think the ten commandments are a great memorial for a museum or temple in heaven. Folks in heaven having been made perfect will probably not really need those tablet rules in the way ancient Israel did. The law is in our hearts. But in any case, when we are told the ark of His covenant is in a...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Believing what is said is red hot, not stone cold. What would be cold is ignoring that the ark was never lost and will never be found on earth, and the great significance that occurred when that ark was taken by God to heaven. Also the significance that none of Israel's rulers (the same ones...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Yet I did not see the verse saying that the ten commandments were laws of heaven? In fact only the ark was mentioned as being there. If you recall the law brought death because no one could keep it. Once we have Jesus we do not need any law. His law is love. That is the law of heaven!
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    I don't see how something that represented the presence of God and was probably taken up to heaven by God at the same time Jesus died, and He ripped the veil does not matter? If it was not important why does God tell us it is now in heaven? Since it is in heaven it apparently is still...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    God does not worship a veil either yet He ripped that veil in the temple when Jesus died. He does not worship the ark either, but it seems likely that He took it to heaven at the same time. God doing things does not mean we worship things. No. Unless you mean at the time of John which obviously...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Why wouldn't it be? There were many artifacts, were there not that found their way back to the new temple? If so, why not the holy ark also? If the ark in heaven is the ark of the covenant, then when do you imagine God would have taken it up there? Why would it make any sense to take it to...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Maybe they do have one waiting to be used in the next temple. It will only be a replica though. (whether they know it or not)
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Says who? Have you any evidence it was not in Herod's temple? Interesting that some of the contents of the ark were apparently taken to heaven before the ark itself and the tablets of stone. Great, so now that the ark is in heaven there is no need for it to represent His presence for the...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    And so did the ark apparently!