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Stan, I do not think I am being disengenious. Are you arguing that kainos must mean "new" in the other-worldly sense because it is used in Eph. 4:24, etc.? Then what about how neos is used in the following verses: “Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are...

Well, I have heard some charismatics describe them as "angelic" but if you are uncomfortable with that phrase then I wont ascribe it to your views. I think the point is that you see them to non-human languages that are not of this world and therefore incomprehensible by anyone apart from a...

Depends on the verse ATP. Some verses refer to heavenly rewards while others refer to falling from grace and right standing with God. For instance: None of these passages are speaking about heavenly rewards. They are speaking about salvation. They all imply the danger of "being...

StanJ, I do not think Mark 16:17 implies never heard of before angelic languages. First, this text is likely not in the original manuscripts of Mark. Second, the word for "new" here is kainos. This word is more indicative of "new to the possessor" than something never seen before. Kittle...

Hey Oz, I will have to disagree with you as well. There is simply no indication that the tongues of Acts 2 and the tongues of 1 Cor 14 are two different kinds of tongues (one human language and the other not). The word "tongues" simply means "languages" as you know. We have spiritualized...

So you are just going to ignore the dozen passages I quoted that say Jesus is God? You see, that is why I am Trinitarian. I agree with you that there is one God. The Bible clearly teaches this and I do not deny it (as you should know..so why you keep saying it, I do not understand.), and yet...

I am simply saying that if a person does not have faith, they are not saved. There is no "works based righteousness" in what I am saying (as you previously implied). Faith is not a "work." We do not earn anything before God by believing. Faith gives us access to grace...favor we have not...

Faith is not a work. The idea that a person must continue to follow Jesus and trust in him is the very definition of depending on Jesus rather than self.

Ok, well, that is an assumption on your part (that I think has no foundation in the Bible). However, again this has nothing to do with works. We both agree that we are saved by grace through faith. I believe a person can turn from the faith and you do not. So let us quit the silly talk about...

Jesus is high priest and not our God? So, what Bible are you reading? He is the High Priest. He is the Son of God. He is the Alpha and Omega. He is the First and the Last. He is the Way. He is the Truth. He is the life. He is the resurrection. He is eternal life. He is the...

Yes.

Faith is not a work. A person must believe in Jesus to receive grace. We are saved by grace through faith. Faith is the means by which we access grace. Grace is a gift and faith is the means by which we access that gift. Faith is always held in contrast to works in the writing of Paul. You...

There is sound theology behind the Happy Meal. lol

If I say, "No one can take the hamburger away from my child" then I am powerfully affirming that the lunch I have given to my child is theirs and I will prevent anyone from robbing them of it. However, what I am not saying is that my child cannot throw the hamburger I have given them away...

ATP, I must say I am disappointed in your comments. After all the probing discussions we have had, I am shocked you would classify me as self-righteous and put me in the category of Pharisaical hypocrites. Faith is not a "work." There is nothing "self-righteous" about believing someone must...

FHII, Well, I would claim that the "evidence" here is simply that the foundation of the church is built upon the lives and ministries of these Apostles. I just do not see this as a case for OSAS. It could very well be that even if John saw his own name in particular as a foundation of the...

There is just no logic in what you are saying here. I dont know how to communicate with you any more clearly, so I am done trying. Either I am unable to communicate in a way that can help you understand or you are just unwilling. I have read dozens of books on this topic and have studied this...

Actually, the names were written on the "foundations" not the wall. This image portrays the foundation of the church being the message of the Apostles. It has nothing to do with the individual salvation of John. This passage is no different than what we read in Eph. 2:20. It has nothing to...

Justaname, Thanks for replying... Here Paul is contrasting the thoughts and imagination of man with the revelation of God. Man cannot conceive of the things God has prepared, but he has revealed them through his Spirit. The Apostles received revelation from God's Spirit that they might...

This isnt a redefinition of words. If someone says, "We have freedom to vote" they are not indicating absolute freedom. This does not mean infants can vote. Nor does it mean that a person can vote whenever they wish. It means, "When the time comes for votes to be collected for the...