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If you have to keep up a standard of behaviour.. for following God following being given salvation.. that is works based salvation. So though most won't say they do good works to get saved.. they say the same thing by saying they HAVE to do good works to KEEP saved. This is all about the diety...

I dunno, this seems bizarre.. I always thought works for salvation was clearly not Christian and clearly not supported in the Bible. Oh well.... seems unbridled Christianity is getting warped out of recognition recently. Anyway , hi on this site. I'm wattie on cc

John 3:16, 5:24, 3:36 Romans 10 There is much more verses

I don't understand what you mean, sorry. The book of John is completely clear on belief on Jesus as God gives eternal salvation. If the book of John isn't enough.. how about Romans 10? Or how about Job believing in a redeemer along with David? Or how about going back to Abraham who believed...

Eternal salvation is thru believing Jesus is God.. that He died and rose again to forgive you of your sin.. that He lived sinless. That by believing in Him you have eternal life. That's salvation. Works are the response to having received it.

No contradiction between James and Paul. James is mostly about what happens after salvation in Acts of service to God..in response to what had already been given a believer..eternal life. Paul is more on the salvation process itself.. not by works by grace thru faith in Christ. Of course he...

Works cannot save. A lost person is filthy in God's eyes. Nothing redemptive about just being human. What is the rappers line I heard? Thinking good works will get you to heaven is like putting perfume in a corpse.

The church being added to in Acts 2 is at Jerusalem. Its local and visible again

All redeemed, every believer.. that's not 'the church ' .. not yet. This entity of every believer won't be one church till we are all assembled in the New Jerusalem as one assembly. It's extremely popular, but not biblical, to call all redeemed, or every believer 'the church'. Church...

Okay... 'The church ' assembles. It's a local and visible entity.. Matthew 16:18.. that's local by context Matthew 18:20.. that's local. Acts 2.. is the church at Jerusalem being empowered The letters Paul writes.. local and visible churches I could go on and on

Choosing to believe Jesus is God, that He died and rose again ,that He lived sinless.. comes under convicting from the Holy Spirit. Without the convicting, there is no prompt for salvation. So this is where free will to receive eternal life isn't a work. It's bought thru the Holy Spirit...

Yeah.. I mean, I'm neither calvinist nor arminian. I'm what you call a 'biblicist' . :) So arminianism.. usually means eternal salvation, though it is thru free will.. can be undone/lost.. which I don't believe can be done. And, like you , I don't accept calvinists making putting your faith...

Yes, pre destination ..is Firstly.. a place in heaven is set for a sinner who places their faith in Jesus as God and Saviour. So a believer is eternally secure in Christ. The second part is Jesus has set up His system of New Testament churches that a believer can join. This is pre destined...

Yes, Jesus is all powerful, all knowing etc.. He could have called down a legion of angels to stop the cruficixion happening and overtake the Roman empire etc.. But all must be fulfilled according to prophecy, by God's Will. So Jesus willingly offered Himself as a sacrifice for all.

I think there is too much reliance on feelings and subjective experience here. Demons are real, but they aren't like Hollywood style little red monsters with horns and sharp teeth etc. Evil is attractive to people because it hides the dark side of itself with a veneer of beauty, riches and...

Yep... the Bible is about the Triune God and His dealings with people. The fall of man and a toning sacrifice of Jesus the Messiah. Who is God.

Yes, the unforgivable sin was being committed by Pharisees who were not converted. It's not something you apply to believers. If believers fall into sin, if they deny God.. they get rebuke and discipline. But the Holy Spirit does not leave their spirit, because of the guarantee the Holy...

An embarrassment? So the Paulicians, Waldenses etc .. Didn't have baptistic type beliefs? Even though those who aren't Christians have reported on their beliefs.. way before 1600. I know a direct line of unbroken churches can't be directly proven. That is because the records of them...

The book of John clearly has the consequence of being cut off from the light... Jesus.. for those who do not believe. For the 1 Corinthians verse you gotta put it in the context of the rest of the chapter and book. So who is the 'all' in the verse you mention? All.. maybe only those who...

What scripture supports everyone getting saved? I know most of the book of John has those who believe in Jesus get saved, but I don't see everyone getting saved. The existence of hell is real and there are many many many people heading there unless they believe. Not all believe.