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@APAK @Wrangler @Brakelite @ProDeo @Johann Did Christ increase in knowledge and understanding? Did Christ have a dying mortal body? Did Christ do this?...but perfectly?

@Brakelite Was Jesus a New Man created by God?

If, as you @Brakelite believe, then we ought not to be conformed to Heaven (thinking) where you believe sin reigns also! "THIS WORLD!!!"

You will note the carnal mind is FLESH & BLOOD however, the Spiritual Mind when manifested in a Spiritual Body CANNOT sin! Divine Nature does not have the potential for a double mind as its only source is God

@Brakelite The solution was for God to raise up a man who would develope the spiritual mind and by doing offer himself as a living sacrifice. In doing so, God condemned sin in the flesh and removed sin's condemnation and death.

@Brakelite This is what Christ was raised up to overcome. He held the potential to manifest this mind because he was born of a woman and born under the Law for which sin was increased! The condemnation of death reigns over all peoples including the Christ and it was from this condemnation...

But you haven't addressed the key passages, of which I provided at least nine examples to Johann. The fact that you can't agree that Jesus declared the righteousness of God astonishes me, as this is one of the clearest teachings evident throughout his entire ministry! F2F

Do you believe the Son of Man was in Heaven? Originated in Heaven, as a man?

True it was. Restored? The Glory doesnt change Brakelite! You diminish his reliance on faith and take away that which pleased his Father? “Without faith it is impossible to please God” Correct "in" Christ Did you miss this? Therefore we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making...

They haven't

no it doesnt! It states Jesus was "made" like you in "every" respect to mean he there was no difference between you and Jesus in nature or mental capacity! Don't assume you can prove the doctrine of incarnation, Pro—it's been thoroughly debunked in this thread, and there’s a mountain of...

It's comical watching you jump through hoops! With this mindset how can you know?

John 1:3 states: "All things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made." Okay!

It's in infection in the mind Pro! Paul calls it a "depraved in mind and deprived of the truth" Also, since you tried to fix my post does this entitle me to do the same?

He was made! "Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people." Heb 2:17 Can you see the connection in that verse Pro between him being like you...

I believe this was in the context of you saying "Christ needed not to be redeemed". That has well and truly been proven false in this thread. F2F

Because he has stumbled many times (fact), and right now, he's not recovering with Trinitarian doctrine in his mind! I don’t think you fully understand how serious this debilitating illness is, Pro.

You can't, you have no light

Correct, Pro. Jesus' origins came through the power of God, but this had nothing to do with his physical nature, as you likely realize by now. His life began in a womb, just like yours. I came to digest :watching and waiting: that understanding over 30 years ago, and to be honest, it was quite...

All I've done here in Australia is watch the man from Durban stumble over and over and for now you have not gotten back up!