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  1. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I can't fathom adhering to a doctrine that I couldn't support with biblical evidence.
  2. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I've been waiting for 117 pages for you to start the debate and I'm still waiting for your evidence for dualism. Nothing in that list provides two natures (Divine and Sin' Flesh). Why can't you just be honest and say I don't have the evidence! BUT WAIT!!! HOLD THE PRESS! Did you quote this...
  3. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    An unexplainable paradox!...if you are inferring Dualism...if you mean Jesus had the mind of His Father then YES!
  4. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Not once! @ProDeo Johann's source! Quote "By the historical creedal formulas presented above it can be seen that the Lord’s church in differing communities, in all parts of the earth, has universally acknowledged the two natures of Jesus of Nazareth; these being the natures of God and man...
  5. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The HOWEVER is we "now enter man-made creed doctrines!" and we move away from the Lord Jesus Christ.
  6. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Agree
  7. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    One of the key indicators that dualism is unbiblical is the overwhelming number of references to Jesus being in sin's flesh and fully identifying with us in every way. I’ve asked Johann to provide a single verse that explains dualism—how many replies? Zero... not a single one! F2F
  8. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Once again, Johann, I'm frustrated that you've been exposed to these misconceptions. You are aware that your dualistic view cannot be supported outside of or apart from biblical definitions. A man-made doctrine can only be unknown because its origins lie in human invention. F2F
  9. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @ProDeo The Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus presents a Messiah who you can truly relate to, because he can relate to you. Unlike the Trinitarian understanding of Jesus, this version of Jesus fully comprehends your pain and empathizes with your struggles, as he was truly human. He has...
  10. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    As we have found that is how the Trinity began! The earliest records say it is so!
  11. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    1. We know Jesus as only human (The Word (Logos) became Flesh) 2. We know the Father Created the Physical with Christ the Spiritual Creation in Mind (Logos) 3. We know Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end (Rev) i.e and the living one. I died, and...
  12. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Sorry Johann (said sincerely)
  13. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @RedFan @Wrangler @ProDeo @APAK Ephesians 4:4-6 states, “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.” Christians from the post-biblical era...
  14. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Wrangler @APAK Matthew 28:19 This verse is unquestionably a genuine part of Scripture, and all attempts to dismiss it (including those by Trinitarians, most notably F. C. Conybeare ) have failed. In cases of interpolation, it’s often possible to identify the fraud by referencing...
  15. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    If @RedFan @ProDeo are honest Christians, they will admit #2300 is true and correct. How can Trinitarianism be the doctrine once preached by the apostles, whom the Holy Spirit would “lead into all truth” (John 16:13)? It bears no resemblance to their preaching in the book of Acts, or the...
  16. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The statement in the Didache, when considered in context, effectively highlights the limited scope of the "agency" principle. @Wrangler @APAK – it should be so straightforward for those who hold to the Trinitarian view to grasp the concept of agency, yet I’ve never once heard them mention it...
  17. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @RedFan If you read The Book of Acts or The Didache without any preconceived notions of the Trinity, I believe you'll see exactly that—Jesus is proclaimed as the Christ, but there is no explicit identification of him as a second member or Person of a "Trinity." He is referred to as God’s...
  18. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Brakelite And I will put hostility between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring; her offspring will attack your head, and you will attack her offspring’s heel. Ge 3:15. Can you see how they missed it? F2F
  19. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's a great question, the answer to which the Jews overlooked from the very beginning! The Problem - God’s Holiness and Separation from Sin: Isaiah 59:2 states: "But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He will not hear." James...
  20. face2face

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Further to this above slide, consider the "unique" and "special" nature of the Elect, the Saints and how this group appear to be God's Special Treasure! "Execute upon them the judgment written: this honor have all His saints. Praise ye the LORD." — Psalm 149:9 Verses 1-3: The saints come...