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  1. Hillsage

    Does God care more for himself than he cares for us?

    Just reading, in the 'Concordant Literal Translation' Appendix concerning 'Figures of Speech'. Which was something I thought I knew a little about.....Oh my...how little I did understood is becoming very apparent. I am on page 4 of 15 pages on FIGURES OF SPEECH. The second paragraph of page...
  2. Hillsage

    Does God care more for himself than he cares for us?

    I 'THINK' there was a recent thread as to whether 'the WHOLE BOOK' was the infallible , inerrant, straight from the mouth of God, inspired, word for word...."WORD of GOD". Or something to that effect. So now does 20% really make a ripple in the water? :hmhehm
  3. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I agree. This is where it is more complicated IMO. I believe Peter said "Repent, then get baptized, then receive the holy spirit" then he said; "save yourselves from this wicked generation." So were they saved or not? I would agree there too. Going to heaven was His meritorious work done for...
  4. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Your opinion. My opinion disagrees. My security; ROM 8:38 For I am sure that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love...
  5. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    That's my contention. Accept Jesus and ALL sins totally forgiven FOREVER. And you have a clean slate But, the first time you do sin you now fall back under the TEMPORAL consequence for sin, which is 'ultimately' physical death. You are still under the ETERNAL forgiveness of the cross. So...
  6. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    And the wages of sin being death is still the case for CHRISTIANS to this day. That's why all have PHYSICALLY died and gone to HADES/HELL. This verse is talking to ALL born again believers IMO. Including you, if you are. I don't know. My testimony is in my 1CO 15:55 O death/thantos, where is...
  7. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    You know what word comes from the Greek word ORGE? Ever been to an ORGY? I have and yes the "desire" and "violent passion" were very real. Just like the "desire" and "passion" of God are real for all who are sinners. Including ME and YOU. SRN 3709 (31X) orge: prop. desire (as a reaching...
  8. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    The problem here Steven, is "INCINERATE" doesn't even fit the dictionary definition of 'the majority churches' POV. Incinerate means to "burn up" "consume" "carbonize" "reduce to ashes". That isn't 'ETERNAL PURPOSELESS TORTURE' with no DAMNED end. Other than the fact that their God is mad as...
  9. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Interesting commentsSs......I guess I missed your heretic 'teaching'....too. I usually remove all doubt and just tell people that I'm a heretic.....o_O I feel like I'm in 'fine' biblical company when I do so. But being well versed in "PAULINE THEOLOGY" I must assume you already know that...
  10. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Interesting comment. I guess I missed your heretic 'teaching'. I usually remove all doubt and just tell people that I'm a heretic. :p So I really would like to ask a STEVEN question here. What is your definition of a 'heretic'? Your gentleness when faced with the offensive always brings...
  11. Hillsage

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    WRONG. There IS only ONE church. MAT 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, When GOD looks down from heaven, to this day, HE only sees ONE CHURCH. And 'that church' is the one which is the "many membered" "body of Christ". And Jesus, ''my/our LORD'...
  12. Hillsage

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    Danger sign from the bible; GAL 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft/pharmakeia, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 5331 pharmakeia: medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extens.) magic (lit. or fig.) REV 21:8* But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and...
  13. Hillsage

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    The "FIRST" CHURCH was that of ISRAEL. And 'the church' was called "THE CHURCH" 64 times in the bible. The WESTERN church of ROME and the EASTERN ORTHODOX church of Byzantine came later. Both claim to be 'CATHOLIC' (Universal) and both claim to be 'ORTHODOX' (keeping right teaching)...
  14. Hillsage

    Is the Good News actual news? - No longer news to most

    Not sure I'm remembering this correctly, but I believe it was Billy Graham who I heard say; "If you listen for the questions of a man's heart, God will give you the words to speak into his life." And I'm going to assume, they will hear 'good words'.
  15. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    ~Ministers of the New Covenant 2CO 3:1 Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some, letters of commendation to you or from you? 2 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us...
  16. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Rella, the problem is what do you do with the 100 different bible translations which don't have the word HELL in them ONE TIME? Below is a chart taken from the URL. It only list 28 that don't even have the word in them. If you really want to know the truth, you are going to have to study...
  17. Hillsage

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    That's because a lot of people sitting in a church who got saved by EMOTION from a fire breathing EVANGELIST who scared the HELL into them to say an UNBIBLICAL prayer "with every eye closed" cause they didn't have the 'REPENTANT heart before God' to even walk to the alter without being...
  18. Hillsage

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    are we all supposed to GUESS who you are "inspecting" with your comment? o_O Or should I just think me, because you posted 5 minutes after my post? ;)
  19. Hillsage

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    It is sad that a poorly translated OT verse still stands as a litmus for the NT believers. MAT 12:34 You brood of vipers! how can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 The good man out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil...
  20. Hillsage

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    I thiink the definition of a 'cult' is different. I think it is when all the 'congregation' looks to the ONE who is pastor over them all. And the ALL think the pastor hears God for them ALL. Just like when cult leader JIM JONES told his 918 sheep to drink the Kool Aid and die.