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So no victory then? Your God didn’t make a spectacle of that nature, crucify it on the cross, and take away the ordinances that only revealed it to be more and more sinful? See your issue? 56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the...

So are you saying the virgin birth somehow changed his nature?

How can you be Johann, if you speak as the anti-Christ. Trinitarians, along with those who deny the sinfulness of the flesh, constitute the antichrist, for they reject two fundamental doctrines of the Word: the nature of flesh and God manifest in that flesh. The Apostle John showed those who...

"I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how am I distressed (agony) until it is accomplished!" (Luke 12:50). Knowning now that so many think Christ incapable of sin must also imply he suffered no distress and agony in overcoming temptation every day till he finally crucified that flesh on...

by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh. Heb 10:20 What it also means is the access "through" his flesh is closed to you, because you reject what was removed in him. The new and living way is unknown The Curtain is still up for you Sin's...

You don't know his sufferings if you believe sin was not possible. Hebrews 12:4 states, “In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood” You know not the Christ because of a false doctrine devised hundreds of years after the true Gospel was...

I just can't believe there are so many ignorant Christians in this forum who reject Christ came in sin's flesh! Astounding! F2F

Johann was asked maybe three times last night to provide a single verse that shows Jesus had two natures or even a Divine Nature and do you know how many verses he provided? Zip, zero...nottathing! Do you know why he couldnt provide one verse? Because the Apostle all knew Christ was raised...

My head is spinning, Johann, because it seems that not only you and Prodeo believe Christ was incapable of sin, but many others as well. I understand why you must hold this belief, but it places you outside the body of Christ, and your Gospel is powerless to save if you don't acknowledge that...

For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Heb 2:17 Your demeanor has changed, Lizbeth. I'm not sure what has happened...

"Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes" Prov 26:5

So Christ was a man in Heaven Lizbeth? What type of man was he? His nature? Do share...do you have a verse that teaches us about this Heavenly Man? F2F

We have already established, Johann, that you do not know the true Christ. You believe in a facade— a puppet show—where God merely pretends to be tempted, pretends to die, and pretends to be exalted. A victory in overcoming your error would be far more triumphant if you abandoned your Platonic...

Are you a fool Johann? (asked sincerely) I posted this: And Pro posted this: And you post this? Provide one post Prodeo has provided which is Scripturally sound on providing evidence Christ could not sin. Sharpen up Johann or you should be off to bed also! F2F

@ProDeo @Johann It appears to me that you both have reached the limits of your Trinatarian arguments. With no compelling rebuttal to support the idea of Jesus being "incapable of sin," all that's left is a god-man who provides neither victory nor a genuine sacrifice for sin. Guess I'll head...

@ProDeo @Johann I assume now Johann has joined Pro in this idea that Jesus was: -Capable of temptation -Incapable of sin What happens from here results in affirming the consequent, false dichotomy, affirmative conclusion from negative premise, argument from ignorance, argument from silence...

@Johann This is the same position Bowman found himself in and subsequently lost much ground with the audience. When asked: ‘What was achieved, and how? What was it about Jesus that made him a perfect sacrifice for our sins? Did he need to be God in order to save us? If so, why? Above...

@Johann You should know within the debate Rob Bowman was unable to explain the logic behind this and offered no Scriptural justification. F2F

@Johann Rob Bowman claimed Jesus was capable of temptation, yet incapable of sin. Do you hold this belief?...like @ProDeo If so, I'd like to hear your Biblical explanation. Capable of temptation Incapable of sin I expect this to end in a similar way to explaining Hypostasis. F2F

So you like to discern the Father & Son when it pleases you? If the Son pre-existed, how could he be appointed, and why? What was accomplished if the appointment wasn’t meant to exalt someone who had never held that position? F2F