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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Neither are Jesus nor the Holy Spirit mentioned here....inserted? Can you see the issue with overlooking the involvement of the angels in Genesis 3:22? "And the Lord God said, 'Now that the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, he must not be allowed to stretch out his hand and...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @LuxMundi
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    S=Single Pl=Plural
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's akin to a mathematical fallacy, where an invalid assumption is made in interpreting Genesis 1-3. God, through His Holy Angels, plays an essential role in the creation process. Ignoring this in favor of your own dogma is a clear error. Begin with God and His power, administered through His...
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    Who or What is Babylon the Great? How do God’s people come to be in her?

    "Can you describe how the Hypostatic Union works, Jack? I know you like to quote Scripture, so in proving you are not part of this mysterious Babylonian body, maybe you can support your findings with some text. F2F"
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    OT scripture quoted many times in the New Testament (NT) - why?

    Hi Apak, the issue with this example is while it is presented correctly few understand the context of Isaiah 7 and what it is actually teaching! 7:2 It was reported to the family of David, “Syria has allied with Ephraim.” They and their people were emotionally shaken, just as the trees of the...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    And Who is attributed with doing all these things to Job? The adeversary or God Himself? Show evidence F2F
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    No the One True God, besides Whom there is none other.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    This is exactly my point! The complicated relationships in the Trinity, as commonly understood, are not taught anywhere in Scripture. Once you study the Truth of the Son of Man (@Johann as well), you will come to understand the subordinate relationship of Christ to His Father. As usual if you...
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    Questions, Answers, and Everything In Between: Exploring God

    OT beleivers knew not the truine god but were saved by a single All Powerful God. It simply proves the importance of the Trinity is removed once one understands how God saves through His Son. After all Jesus has a God. F2F
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    You are correct Brakelite that Christ is the antitype of the Firstfruits in everyway. Adam was the firstborn, but due to his wrongdoing, he was removed from his position, and his role was transferred to the Lord Jesus, who is referred to as "the last Adam" (1 Cor. 15:45). As the appointed...
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    Questions, Answers, and Everything In Between: Exploring God

    This thread was created out of the many trinitarian threads going on at the moment. I am a Unitarian for what is worth. So I have been in the trenches for the past week. Time to rest and reboot.
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    Questions, Answers, and Everything In Between: Exploring God

    The KJV contains some of the most profound biblical echoes that other translations lack. However, my concern is its relevance for teaching young people today. It can be a challenging read if you're not familiar with the Queen's English.
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Sleep well - lets pray the Son rises in the morning!
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    Questions, Answers, and Everything In Between: Exploring God

    I was a hardcore KJV onlyist in my younger fundamentalist's years. It took great trauma for me to leave it for the NET and other translations.
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    No-one goes to Heaven! Well not in this epoch of time!
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    Questions, Answers, and Everything In Between: Exploring God

    No, I just have a thing about the KJV that's all
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    Questions, Answers, and Everything In Between: Exploring God

    Ghost is a very poor translation - Spirit is better. But good quote!
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    Questions, Answers, and Everything In Between: Exploring God

    There is not doubt we have God who is Father and a Son who owes his existence the Father and the HS, which is God's Power. I also know the OT believers could know God and be in a saving relationship with him monotheistic understanding.
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Correct