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I haven't much time today but will reply to this one, by saying that it is a frequently used device known as the 'royal we', made famous by Queen Victoria of England who said 'we are not amused'. 'The origin of this tradition is the idea that the monarch in question is speaking for the nation...

Transfiguration as an event in scripture: Theosis is also found in the Gospel accounts of the Transfiguration where the transfigured Christ speaks to the Old Testament saints Moses and Elijah. In Luke’s account we read that Moses and Elijah “appeared in glorious splendor” and that they talked...

https://orthodoxbridge.com/2014/11/03/theosis-and-our-salvation-in-christ/

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/2020/12/deification-the-lost-doctrine-of-the-early-church/

@Lizbeth Perhaps your views will change when you are in the blessing yourself. You are however certainly on the pathway there.

I believe it is speaking of the spiritual journey which has already been entered into. The event is in my understanding, knowing that it has been done and there is nothing we can do in ourselves. Perhaps. Many at that time were teaching it. I cannot remember him giving a testimony. The...

https://new-god-argument.com/support/christian-authorities-teach-theosis.html#Example1 Here are some quotes. Don't forget that they did not say that a man will have all of the attributes of God to be made a partaker. The healing has been going on since the start. Healing from the problem of...

There is faith and there is saving faith. If we believe that He came to free us from sin, and the price is paid by our submission, then that faith saves. The earnest of the Spirit is like a handshake between business partners, to seal the deal which will occur in the future. I am not saying...

Andrew Murray said there are two stages on the highway to holiness - the carnal then the entirely sanctified. The early church said three - the carnal, the enlightened and the deified or ES'ed. He speaks as an enlightened soul. He claims that we are saved at the 'first' blessing or stage. The...

The early church was all about this doctrine. Of course there would be dissenters from NT times but the first few hundred years were spent fighting the gnositics and arians. It was taken for granted that holiness teaching was understood and accepted. Not all Orthodox writers were accepted as...

Not at all. To be united with God is to share in His attributes, and holiness is the most significant. Yes agreed. Glorification is for this life which certain scriptures confirm. Agreed. Yes but we underestimate the power of the flesh when we are still bound by it and rather than die, it...

@Lizbeth will be getting back to you tomorrow now as there is so much to cover. Just want to add how merciful God is.

Looking forwards to hearing more.

.... The early fathers on the other hand, taught that we must at least be on the road to theosis or union with Christ and this starts with Purification, or knowledge of the sin within, with the desire that we will be cleansed from all sin not that it might remain within. We can see that John is...

Missed these two out. For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. James 3:2. James is allowing the perfect man who not only does not offend but controls his flesh. He is using 'we' in the sense of what is...

I hear this all the time on this board, 'I only follow what the Spirit has taught me and my understanding of the Bible is the right one, and I will quote texts to prove it'. LOL so now we have tens of thousands of interpretations. Paul said: This is the third time I am coming to you. In the...

Sorry for the delay, which was mainly due to connection problems but also my brain was not quite online and had decided to take a day off :) Of course, wilful sin is not acceptable and we are in a state of backsliding or even apostacy in that case. Inadvertent mishaps as you call them, are what...

I send that right back at you.

Keep losing connection. ill try later.

I'm not sure what you meant by that first line. You only have to repeat yourself if someone is not listening. And yes God does use our mistakes in eventual benefit but following His will from the start is best.