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Like I said before. Please stay away from Hebrews. It is loaded with what you call nonsense. We learned types and shadows as infant believers. 50 years ago. Definately fire your teachers that made you paranoid of God's word.

Nothing in your 1 Peter verses. Just says we suffer as Christians. You are grasping at nothing. We all suffer as Christians . But thinking only you guys fulfill that passage by being left behind hiding in bomb shelters is silly Your Rev 6 passage is 100% pretrib rapture with the carnal...

Nothing in Matt. Ep 6 is nothing about the trib. Read it 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God...

Oh I can debate the very best of your teachers. Ask one of your teachers for a postrib rapture verse. Tell em you will wait for a response. Then wait and wait and wait. They, like you will not be able to give any. We own end time big time. You do not know the pretrib doctrine. Of course those...

Oh I can debate the very best of your teachers. Ask one of your teachers for a postrib rapture verse. Tell em you will wait for a response. Then wait and wait and wait. They, like you will not be able to give any. We own end times big time.

With that one dimensional approach you hamstring yourself and didn't even know the blessing of God, in God's plan and purpose goes to the second born. I had to school you on that. I we learned that dynamic in 1976 when I first got saved. Such basic knowledge you have been robed of. Definately...

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I attend a Baptist Bible study 3 times a week, and I get basically the same fog out of them that you are experiencing, with any depth in the Old Testament types shadows, that Paul, Jesus, and the writer of Hebrews used in depth and understanding. Mentalists are tedious to talk to. The bible is...

Then please do not read Hebrews. It is way over your head with tons of typology. You will get only a history lesson in the bible, if the stories in it are one dimensional and mental. IOW , all those OT stories, without spiritual discernment are abstracts. No meaning. I would hate to see your...

Jacob and esau. Solomon vs His older brother. Efreim and Manassas Isaac and Ismael David over his older brothers Joseph over his older brothers. In none of all that did the firstborn receive the blessing. You don't see the purpose in God's plan? It ALL POINTS to the church and the ot...

I agree in part. One thing to factor in: DAVID is the forerunner to Jesus and he had many wives. IOW, It was "necessary" that the forerunner had many wives. Jesus is the groom of all believers...many wives

No matter how you slice it , the direct statement, "..tribulation such as the world has never seen or ever will be" (The wrath part of tge 7 yr trib) is way worse thst the first part of the 7 yr trib. So you can not refer to what you are separating as "tribulation" as greater than the wrath...

Pretend Hosea does not exist, then cut out Ruth and romans 9-11 The 2 wives are eternally cannonized in God's Holy Word.

If you are preterist then that is a whole different bible, than my greek interlinear.

Christ "comes" in Rev 14. Way before Rev 19. Way way before the second coming. Israel is represented in gomer. (Purchased in the end.) She is referred to in the first miracle AT A WEDDING, when it was declared "....you saved the best for last." "last" and "first" are interchangeable in God's...

The Light quote "You have Christians running around during Gods wrath. We are not appointed to wrath"". I see them running around briefly DURING the 7 yr gt. But the AC kills all left behind soon after the rapture. The innumerable number is the martyrs from the AC. No believers are running...

QUOTE ""This will be the greatest tribulation suffered by Christians ever. But it is not the wrath of God which is Gods vengeance. You have Christians running around during Gods wrath. We are not appointed to wrath"". Mat 24 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his...

Now he will follow you around and mockingly laugh at you posts. Entertaining fow show

Rev 14 has no gathering from heaven. Zero. No, mat 24 is not the sixth seal. No angels gather anywhere for the marriage supper. Mat 25 has JESUS GATHERING THE BRIDE, FROM EARTH, to the marriage chamber (HEAVEN) and the door is shut. (every rapture verse Has Jesus doing the gathering.) ""And...

I will note that you can not unpack Rev 14. Dodge and omit. Repeat. Got it.