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  1. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    The angels gather the elect for the assembly in heaven to the white horses. You are missing mat 24, Jesus comes in power and great glory AFTER the 7 yr trib. Rev 14;14 is the final gathering of earth...during the trib. And that is the Jews. Your getting closer. 2 wives. Illustrated in Hosea and...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Pretend Rev 14:14 is something other than what it is. Just do that. ...and keep doing it.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You did a beautiful job in that. End times will never be understood without that dynamic. There are 3 horses in the pasture You went and found one of them. And then declare the other two don't exist because you didn't find them.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    By casting down the bride and groom dynamic of Christ and His bride, it tells me you have sat under mental teachers. I attend a mens bible study 3 times a week. They are all baptists...( mentalists) I have brought the bride and Groom dynamic up several times and it goes completely over their...
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    ACTS 2:21 AND ROMANS 10:13 CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD

    You don't understand salvation. The remedy for sin is innocent blood. The REASON for God's son to be sacrificed was 2 fold 1) the payment HAD to be through KINSMAN. GOD HAD TO BECOME MAN. 2) TROUGH DEATH, GODS BLOOD, PAYMENT WAS PART OF SALVATION. You do not understand what salvation is...
  6. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    The Greek proves you wrong. You need to show how the Greek is wrong. Not how you think it should be translated. You are attempting to void the pretrib rapture verses. The bible does not operate that way.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Grain and fruit harvests. Two raptures. That is how the 144,000 become firstfruits. The Jewish harvest ( fruit harvest) is years after the rapture of the church. The jews at the time of the pretrib rapture are actually apart from Christ. They are raptured and believe when they see him in the...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Most here have no idea of anything concerning firstfruits.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "In Rev 3:12 Jesus calls his Father “my God” four times in that one verse....he has been back in heaven for over 50 years. Does God himself have a god even in heaven?" You are trying, as all cults do, to mentally unpack God's word. GOD is a spirit His book is a spirit book. Trying to...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Not even close. Jesus is the creator, which you defy.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Michael is a created being. Ask "aunty" if Jesus is also a created being. ....and yes, watchtower,( "aunty"), in the past, declared Jesus and Michael to be the same beings. Now they say they are both created, but different created beings. Pitiful
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    The Mount of Olives is splitting!

    "Invertigated". Def; When a postribber agherant investigates end times dynamics.:Happy:
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    Talks with Iran have failed. Trump says Iran will not be allowed to sell any oil, if they block Strait for other countries, US will block their ships

    Massively wrong. His pastor was nation of Islam. He corrected people openly about the Quran. He claimed it is actually the "Holy Quran " He claimed the muslin call to prayer is the most beautiful sound he ever heard.
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    Smith Wigglesworth: what should Christians learn from him — and question?

    The power left God? We don't lay hands on anyone for healing? The book of James is no longer valid?
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    Smith Wigglesworth: what should Christians learn from him — and question?

    Cessationists debate him. Those with the baptism of the Holy Ghost, appreciate Him, as a pioneer of what God can do, through abandonment and faith. He believed God at His word, and acted on it
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Just do the 50-50 thingy and hope the Holy Spirit is wrong.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    "Shipwreck". Unless you think you can be "shipwrecked" without a ship. Read it again without preconceived doctrine.
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    Talks with Iran have failed. Trump says Iran will not be allowed to sell any oil, if they block Strait for other countries, US will block their ships

    Lol He says people use TDS label on others because it is to discredit the messenger. Ahem..when we invoke "TDS" label, it is EXPOSING them that use "destroy the messenger" tactics as THEIR MAIN STRATEGY. WOW. Blue ribbon hypocrisy. Look...destroying the messenger is from Saul alenski's book...
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    Talks with Iran have failed. Trump says Iran will not be allowed to sell any oil, if they block Strait for other countries, US will block their ships

    Looks to me like he is saying those agreeing with him are the real Christians, and those that don't are fake and false believers. No telling what he thinks the "real believers" actually are. But I will guess the 4 "real believers" listed are postrib rapture believers. (Tribulation centered)...