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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I don't see anything you quoted refuted my belief that the Father was in eternity then brought forth the Word, one with Himself, of equal divinity at the point of creation, so He was there before the world began as He joined in its creation. I believe in the Trinity but think you don't quite...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    That is correct...Jesus is not God the Father, the Source of all things. Jesus was begotten, and the Holy Spirit, proceeded from the Father . We have two sides battling, and sometimes being nasty with each other, when each of them are on the extreme edges. God the Father existed in eternity...
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    Atrial Fibrillation.

    The supplement industry is nearly as corrupt, with Big Pharma buying them out. Cheap fillers. This is a good company in the UK: https://www.british-supplements.net/ You must have them in the US.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Here is Gary Hamrick on the Trinity listen from 13:55 to 23:17. I am not endorsing him...heck I am not a Protestant but he brings up a point not covered yet on the Greek for 'one' : https://cornerstonechapel.net/teaching/20241208/
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    Atrial Fibrillation.

    It means all of the measurements they do to get a fuller picture. I am very pleased to hear that your son is helping you. However, there is a vast difference between nutritionists, from the conventional medicine ones and the functional medicine ones. The medical system is now based on the...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Interesting. I don't know where I belong now...maybe nowhere. Absolutely true. I have been into alternative medicine for a long time since being gaslighted by doctors, with my environmental illness (mercury and pesticide poisoning) so am my own doctor. And dentist for that matter and my eyes...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    It was after I came out of Calvinism that I found them, but if it had been during my 'reformed' days, it would surely have brought me out. Later I came out of Protestantism through reading them, and some of the more recent writers like Fr. John Romanides. I just don't get, how anyone can see...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I am a long way from sliding GG. I am reading the scriptures that the Uni's amongst us quote, and considering them, but not how they interpret them, testing my understanding on scripture firstly. However I have not been swayed by any means, as I began to give the Trinity a fresh look before...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    No GG. It is, to me, what has been the mistaken teaching that has overcome the west, and won't be able to stand against the Unitarian takeover coming because they do have verses that can persuade others because they have a bit of truth .used with a huge error. Jesus Christ is not a creature...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    OK you just can't grasp that the Father was in eternity forever, then He brought forth His Son, at the point of creation, totally divine as well, not a creature like everything else that does not share in His essence. Only the Son and HS share in that and are therefore a trinity. Fully God and...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Let's start at the beginning: In the beginning was the Word which is what I am saying. When was the beginning? Eternity is above time so there is no beginning there. It must mean the creation where Jesus was, by then present.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I am changing my view on the Trinity after finding out about Eastern Orthodoxy, and absolutely believe in it but just not quite as I knew it before. I have been born again since 1974. God is eternal right? He has no beginning or end and He the Father is the source of everything. There was a...
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    Yes I was willing and have spent some time thinking it through. I appreciate the chance to do this. However, I have not come back to continue in discussion as it is futile when you were not prepared to do the same. Just to tie up a few ends. I did not mean that I alone have a different...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I think that He eminated into a spiritual being long before He was incarnated, at the beginning of time. Beginning of time is not eternity. Time is this creation so no I do not believe that He always existed nor did the HS.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Agreed. But do you agree that there was a time when Jesus came into an eminated form whereas the Father always was as He is eternal?
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Believing in the Trinity could be the requisite for taking part in the debate forums at least. Scripture says that the Father is not begotten but Jesus is, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father (not the Son). God is spirit and has no beginning yet His Son 'eminates' from Him as the early...
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    You are making more assumptions, as is your way. I have nothing to do with holiness churches. They base their doctrine of a further event in sanctification, on early church teaching pf theosis, but have gone far astray on it till it does not resemble it at all these days, but in the early years...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I too thought that this was the begetting but think now it was when God the Father produced His Son in order to enter space and time and create all.
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    The Holy Spirit points things out to us that need our attention. If you do not believe that then you are having a relationship with a book and not a living faith. It is not latter day revelation, as there is nothing new under the sun but that which we confirm in scripture. For most of church...
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    Because they were in the same boat as the second son. They also did not obey Gods commandments. They gave the correct answer and Jesus was showing them they knew they were gulity condemning themselves. Apologies I did not see that one. I really don't see how you could come to that conclusion...