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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    They gave the wrong answer which Jesus rebuked.
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    Scripture says he changed his mind. Nothing about Biblical repented. 28 “But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go, work today in my vineyard.’ 29 He answered and said, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he regretted it and went. 30 Then he came to the...
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    Why did Jesus rebuke the same answer you gave? No sir I am not a Calvinist nor a male.
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    @Titus Your conclusion is wrong, like that of the ones rebuked by Christ. Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. The son who obeyed the Father, was the second who answered immediately he would go. The first son said he would not go. It is how we respond straight away to...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Haha, not funny. Only the truth speaks to me. I began to come out of Protestantism when I found its tenets are not to be found in the early church. The past two years have cured me from it and I will never go back and it is more recently that I have been looking at the Trinity. Many are...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I can't find the ref. you mentioned. I may have meant generated in eternity.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Thank you @Johann Prov 8:22 says: New International Version “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; New Living Translation “The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else. English Standard Version “The LORD possessed me at the...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I held your view for 50 years and you think I should go back to it? There is nothing I do not know about your view. Farewell!
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I would add, that the incarnate Christ, being a mix between eternity and creation, has the ability to function throughout creation as Saviour and not just after the incarnation.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    God the Father, brought Jesus Christ into being at the beginning of creation, whereas He Himself existed eternally, and at the point of creation, as it is through Christ that this creation came forth. Scripture is not clear so far on whether the two were at the same time or not. I think it is...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    "Bear always in mind that this is the rule of faith which I profess; by it I testify that the Father, and the Son, and the Spirit are inseparable from each other, and so will you know in what sense this is said. Now, observe, my assertion is that the Father is one, and the Son one, and the...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    It is that encounter that they call 'born again' and everyone has the same testimony - that it was Christ they encountered. May I suggest that you consider this.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I am not equipped at present to debate you and kindly ask if you would leave this thread as you are not able to keep on topic. I will say to you, that your view and the existing Trinitarian view expressed here, which I claim to not be the one of the early church, and are both imbalanced, two...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    As I have described to the last poster, the three are one in essence and all are divine and worthy of worship. There are some points of the Trinity that do not stand to logic but I believe that scripture gives us a good idea.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Jesus is not like God the Father, the source of all things who is eternal therefore has no beginning, but is begotten by the Father. This is the point where it says 'in the beginning', the point at which the eternal God, had to make a change in order to enter time and space, being purely Spirit...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Interesting. Then you will have some insight into the things I mentioned. Normally they are not allowed to prozelytise alone. Sad for you though. They break up families. There is an acceptance of minor differences from the early church onwards so long as they are not heretical, from leaders...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    And those who have been persuaded to think that Christ is not God, as the Muslims do, they will not put up much of a fight.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Yes I know that Christianity has been infiltrated by Interfaith, But I don't see that as our biggest enemy. When the numbers of Muslims are great enough in each country, then they will take over and declare holy war which is what I am seeing.