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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Meaning you cannot refute what I have stated from scripture. Your so-called fundamentals are shown to be mostly your personal opinion with some other man-made reformational dogma. Your statement regarding "election" is reformational Calvinism. Hardly the Gospel from the beginning, preserved by...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The context in each case is correct. The all means all. The objective salvation refers to what Christ did to redeem His creation from the fall, death. Man lost life, became mortal. Without Christ's eventual coming man and the world would simply succumb to death. God created man to be...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    They are theological terms, just like Trinity. The objective salvation is what Christ accomplished by His Incarnation, that is, He became man. So, first: The doctrine of salvation is rooted in creation. We must know what man is or was in order to understand salvation. The essential understanding...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    That depends on which aspect of one's salvation you are referring. Objective salvation cannot be lost, it is wholly accomplished by Christ. However, our subjective salvation can be lost because it all depends on individual man. Does he believe or does he reject Christ. That choice can change...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    This topic always gets over heated. The discussion usually is confined to the subjective part of salvation. However, many want it to be objective totally missing the Gospel There are two parts to our salvation. Part is objective. Christ taking on our human nature and subjecting it to death...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    No, you did not answer it. You gave a nonrelevant response. It is not a matter of not liking it, it is a matter of it being nonsense, illogical, and cannot be supported in scripture. You hold a view of predestination, however when other texts in scripture clearly oppose such a view, you...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    You didn't answer the question. I'm assuming your view on predestination is correct. God before time determined the end for all humans. Some he chose, some were condemned. Now the question. Given this view, the Bible speaks many times about being judged. What in your view is being judged...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    That is what I asked you? What would you be judging?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    If our eternal destiny was predetermined before we even existed, why would there be a judgement? What would be the purpose of such a judgement?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    Again, in order to have the Holy Spirit one must believe and be baptized. Believing and being baptized is a choice of every man. To be sealed does not mean one is held against his own will by God. Many men have rejected Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit in their lives. The NT give many...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    You defeat your whole premise by stating that nothing happens except by repentance. The Holy Spirit works upon every human being, first to move you to accept Christ. Then He works with you to become Christlike, to reach for perfection through a commitment to Christ. It is all based on man...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    If one pulls a text out of context, one can make it say whatever one desires. However, the whole context is about changing one's outlook. It is about being in the Spirit and living in the Spirit. One can change. That change comes by man's will. God does not decide for man what he becomes. We...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    All men have been created with the ability to respond to God's call. Rom 1: 18-21 All men have been called to repent Acts 17: 30 II Pet 3:9 If any man knock it will be opened to him, Matt 7:7, Rev 3:20 All men will be judged Rom 2:5-11, Rev 20: 11-13. All men will make a free will choice of who...
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    Limited atonement !

    Correct. It has nothing to do with man. Man is the recipient of the atonement.
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    Limited atonement !

    Regarding the subjective part of atonement, the forgiveness of sin is who is eligible. It has nothing to do with the atonement itself. Christ's atonement was to God, not man. Let's take a severe example to show what I am asking. Even if not a single person ever believed, and asked for the...
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    Limited atonement !

    You are not describing limited atonement either. For whom it was meant does not limit the atonement itself. Christ was reconciling the world back to God. There is no mention of any individuals being reconciled. Heb 2:14-16 states clearly that Christ came to defeat Satan who held the power of...
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    Limited atonement !

    I have a question for either of you. In my discourse with Brightfame52 he never could answer just how Christ's atonement could be limited. This discussion has been long but no one seems to understand how it could be limited. They use the term but never define it.
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    Limited atonement !

    Here is another chance for you to explain the theology you have on how does one limit a death?
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    What did Jesus die to save us from?

    Heb 2:14-18 sums it up quite nicely. Other short answers could be Heb 2:9. or I John 2:2.
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    Limited atonement !

    Yes, and the parable is one of the best examples of believers who walked away. Two examples of falling away, the first where the birds got the seed, it NEVER TOOK ROOT. Meaning the other two did take root, but the cares, tribulations, trials of life drew them away.