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Yeah, people quote "perfect love casts out fear", but "the one who keeps His commands is perfect in love", so, yeah, I guess if you're perfectly keeping His commands you won't fear. LOL

Even though I affirm this "on paper", this stands in contrast to my mentality, which is imperfect, which is "I had better do good, or else--if I don't do good, I will get in trouble"--Paul seems to speak about the mere prospect of doing good as a source of joy and hope, not dread, like me...

In my experience, God being one's righteousness is one's knowing God for oneself, and one's revealing of that God he knows, saving the lost and edifying the saved, through one's words and deeds--"this grace in which we stand and rejoice in hope of God's glory [through our righteous works...

I figure the guy does love God, based on what he says, but I don't really entangle myself, because, in my experience, there's no possibility of a fruitful exchange in terms of specific ideas or words, though I think he does have the spirit of it right (he does say both faith and works are...

I guess what sticks in my craw is being told "salvation is a gift", but also being told that I will go to hell if I don't obey, but, then, also, not allowing me to fear. I'm being threatened, but I'm not allowed to acknowledge I am being threatened! It doesn't make sense. Then, I try to obey to...

I always, always, always, hear a voice "Peace", "rest", "sabbath", "son", etc. Yes, this verse confuses me--and I view it is a "clue" to a better understanding than the one I have. Yeah, that's nice, but interpreting 1 John by 1 John, we also see "love in deed not merely words", and "the one...

We are saved, just as the Jews were saved, but, as with the Jews after they were saved, our behavior determines our outcome (1 Corinthians 10).

I named myself GracePeace because it is a wish that I have for my life. I've heard of scrupulosity before--I was infant baptized Catholic, and my grandmother grew up in a convent in Ecuador, so I have some acquaintance with Catholicism--but I just wish that if I really were wrong in my...

It doesn't matter if you want to, all that matters is that you DO it after wanting it, bc, by my view, that's salvation

My service was excepted to on the basis it was partially out of fear, but it is the most insulting thing to my intelligence to say serve only out of love as if I'm not being threatened bc if I'm not being threatened that would make it as though there were no penalty for not obeying but that is...

You love God by obeying God at the cost of your life.

I either experience God's love or I don't--I don't get nourished by a word but by a substance. Words are just words.

Yeah, we love because He loved us first, but the love is to be in deed not in word, 1 John says, so there is a fear that I may not do the thing that is loving and therefore lose eligibility for the love. Jesus says He lays His life down for His friends, and you are His friend IF YOU DO WHAT HE...

No, I mean I think about going to hell and being tormented if I don't do what I'm supposed to do, and, somehow, that is wrong.

Sure, "salvation" is by grace through faith alone, not our own good deeds--I agree--however, I think we don't define "salvation" the same way. I think Paul defines it by the precedents that went before us : the Jews were "saved" out of Egypt, by the blood of lambs (foreshadowing Christ's blood...

If everything you're saying is true, Paul would have no reason to tell Timothy what he is telling him--he would assume Timothy had already believed and forever had eternal life. I agree that God has given "us" eternal life, and that "we" can know "we" have it--specifically, the life is located...

Jesus's Name is "God Is Our Righteousness". Abiding in Him ("if that which you heard from the beginning abides in you"), it seems, God Himself is our righteousness. Therefore, I disagree that God's righteousness is imputed to us. That said, where we differ is the idea that abiding in Him is a...

Language barrier

We have a language barrier.

You probably speak my language better than I speak yours, so I'm not putting you down, but I wish this was a little clearer. I already explained why I can't conceive of serving WITHOUT fear (not without love but also with fear) : that's what the words I read inspire in me.