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  1. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    No! Jesus said "all these things" to His disciples. All those things included His Coming with His mighty angels and their gathering of the elect from the four corners of the earth (i.e., resurrection), the Abomination of Desolation, and the Great Tribulation. Specific things happen at specific...
  2. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Whatever. Such hatred against a fellow believer "is banned here." Scripture warns about that you know! When you get to glory, your eschatology will be corrected.
  3. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Lizbeth, that is not what Jesus said. He used the expresson "this generation" nineteen times. Please look them up and study them. He always meant those of His own day--His contemporaries. Always. Jesus told THEM that THEY were to recognize the signs of His COMING as surely as THEY recognized...
  4. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Peter is writing just prior to A. D. 70 and the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. Jesus foretold this time and told THEM that it would happen in THEIR generation. They looked for it; they waited for it, they longed for it. Upheavals in the "heavens" and "earth" were OFTEN depicted by...
  5. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I am stating what I STUDIED. It is you who do not understand. You do not understand the very JEWISH nature of the Scriptures. Jesus spoke as an OT prophet, using the very language they used--symbolic, apocalyptic, judgment language. The prophets used metaphors of the physical heavens and earth...
  6. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    My "teacher" is the Word of God. Your comment gives the impression that my understanding comes from those outside of the Scriptures--from the studies of others. While I appeal to the thoughts of others, as we all do, my final conclusions come from my own personal study of God's Word...
  7. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    No worries, Lizbeth. It is hard to keep up. I'm sorry to bring this up again, but it is important. As I noted before, the Scriptures do not state that Israel was an "ensample" to us. The disobedience of the people in the wilderness under Moses was the example to those of that day, not to us. We...
  8. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Second Peter must be understood in it historical setting and through the mind of a Jew of that day. First of all, Jesus told His first-century disciples that He would return to THEM as a "thief in the night" (Mat. 24:42ff). In the days of Noah, they were unaware that the flood was coming and it...
  9. HappyOma

    End time predictions

    Let's move from the clear to what you consider unclear. Jesus used the expression "this generation" NINETEEN times. He ALWAYS meant those of HIs day. Yes, I insist that we start there. Jesus clearly expressed when those things would happen, yet you continue to ask "when did that happen and...
  10. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    That is not what eidon means. It means in the Greek "to see" or "to perceive." Where are you getting "mentally" from? They were to SEE/PERCEIVE His coming in His kingdom to THEM--in THEIR lifetime. They were to "see/perceive" that He had COME in the signs He had told them to watch for. Jesus...
  11. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    "Matthew 10:23 (KJV) But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. [the verse is saying "till the Son of man ACCOMPANY you]A" WHAT???????????? That is ridiculous. The...
  12. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    "Do YOU Jusat ignore these verses: John was shown those things which were to SHORTLY take place; the time was NEAR (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10) THAT establishes the entire time frame of John's vision--in involved those things which were to SOON take place--in HIS day. The time was NEAR. Again, this...
  13. HappyOma

    The last hour

    We cannot discuss Scripture if we will not acknowledge the true meanings of words. Jesus was clear that He was returning to those of HIS day and He did--or He lied. You cannot see it because you insist on maintaining a false understanding of the NATURE of His returen, the NATURE of the...
  14. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The "new heaven and earth" pertained to the things of that age that was then ABOUT TO come. It was the coming of the New Covenant. The old heaven and earth were the things of the Old Covenant--the Temple and the holy city. Jesus spoke of these two when He taught about the blasphemy against the...
  15. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The Messianic Age was initiated at the Advent of the Messiah and was fully instituted at His return in A. D. 70 when the Old was abolished forever.
  16. HappyOma

    The last hour

    What don't you understand about Paul's words? Let's look closely at them. "For this we declare to you BY A WORD FROM THE LORD, that WE who ARE ALIVE, who ARE LEFT until THE COMING OF THE LORD, will not precede those who have fallen asleep." THEY would be ALIVE at His coming!
  17. HappyOma

    The last hour

    "The resurrection of the dead in Christ and gathering together to Christ has not yet happened. All of the dead in Christ and all who are alive and remain when Jesus comes in the future will be caught up to Him. He will not come until He can gather literally all who are His and ever will be His...
  18. HappyOma

    The last hour

    "He said there were already many antichrists in the world at that time, but he did not say "the last hour" only referred to his time." John did say the last hour--John 2:18 "Brethren, it IS the LAST HOUR." False Christs are very much the spirit of "antichrist." Jesus spoke also of "false...
  19. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I will try. I will give you "the plain words of Scripture," but you will reject them. Jesus told His disciples right there with Him before He sent them out to the lost sheep of Israel: "YOU will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man COMES" (Mat. 10:23). Jesus...