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  1. HappyOma

    The last hour

    John meant the last "hour" of the last days. He and those of His day were living in the last days (Heb. 1). The "end" spoken of in the Scriptures (e.g., Daniel's "time of the end" and Peter's "the end of all things," 1 Peter 4:7) refers to the end of the Old Covenant, Mosaic age. The writer of...
  2. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    First of all, the holocaust is questionable. Time will bring out the truth. Second, Jesus placed THAT tribulation in the generation of those disciples right there with Him ("THIS generation"). "That alone destroys" futurism and YOUR doctrine. Furthermore, the Tribulation period very much...
  3. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    "None is so blind as he who will not see." rebuilder, you stubbornly resist truth that is presented to you from the very words of the Bible and then accuse others of not being able to "accept it." Heresy? Let us all be careful lest we find OURSELVES guilty of what we accuse others. I wish...
  4. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    What is plainly written in the Bible? What is the point of "supporting text, rwb, when you do not acknowledge what is "plainly written" in 1 Peter 4? I EXEGETED that entire section and THEN I gave supporting text. It is YOU who continues "to espouse your unbiblical doctrine" and "refuse to...
  5. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Let's look at the CONTEXT of 1 Peter 4:5-6 instead of just ripping it out to try to make a point. The word for "ready" is "etoimos." The readiness is clarified in Verse 7. The "readiness" was at hand. What was Christ "ready" to do? He was to judge the "living and the dead." The timing for...
  6. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    There is a big difference between "no more delay" and "no more time." People use this verse to falsey contend that time will end and the earth will be destroyed. The things which were unfolding in John's vision were coming to a close. There would be no more delay in the coming of those events...
  7. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Jesus is referring to one hour and one hour only. At the coming of the Messiah, "the hour" and the "hope of Israel" had arrived. They eagerly awaited the deliverance of the "soul from the power of Sheol" (Psalm 89:48--resurrection). That "hour" had arrived in Christ and would continue until the...
  8. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Again, I am not the one who first used the verse out of context. But I am happy to take the time to provide it for you. Peter is writing to Jews--"elect exiles of the dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia" (1 Peter 1:1). It was not written to US. This is the second...
  9. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    That's a lot to deal with, but I am happy to. You wrote: "Because Christ shall return when the seventh/last trumpet sounds, and not before. Since the last trumpet did not sound the arrival of Christ coming in the clouds in the first century, and in fact the final trumpet still has not yet...
  10. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Let's use Scripture. YOU deny and defy the clear timing. Why was John told that He was to be shown "those things which must SHORTLY take place" (Rev 1:1, 22:6). Why was John told that the time was NEAR (Rev. 1:3; 22:10). Why was John told to NOT seal up the vision? (Rev. 22:10). "You saying...
  11. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    YOU show ME the CONTEXT, rebuilder. You are the one who used the verse. If you cannot, I will be happy to do so. It is easy. Answer these questions: To WHOM is Peter writing? WHEN is Peter writing? WHY is Peter writer?
  12. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Why do you refuse to look at verse in their CONTEXT, rebuilder? And why do you not acknowledge "with the Lord" and "as"? They are significant to the meaning. What is the CONTEXT of 2 Peter 3? Do you even bother to try?
  13. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Your repeatedly saying so does not make it so. You are in opposition to the very words of your Lord and Savior who said that His Second Coming would happen in the generation of those very disciples right there with Him. Do you really want to be in oppostion to Jesus Himself? You deny and defy...
  14. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Yes, rwb, THAT is the question! And it is the question students of the Word must endeavor to answer. The timing was set--we must find the fulfillment within it. Why can it not be the coming of Christ? Jesus placed those things in the generation of those disciples right there with Him. It is...
  15. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Do you believe in a one-thousand year reign of Christ on the earth? Perhaps it will only last 1 day! rebuilder, you do not understand the context of 2 Peter 3. Peter is addressing those of HIS own day. THEY are the "beloved." THEY were taught, and justifiably so, that the LORD was returning to...
  16. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    It destroys nothing, rebuilder. You are abusing it by ripping it out of its context--in order to use it as a weapon. That is not how we should approach Scripture. WHAT is the CONTEXT of 2 Peter? Again, it has NOTHING to do with "in the day."
  17. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    First of all, let's AGAIN establish the TIMING of John's vision. He was shown those things which were to SHORTLY take place; the time was NEAR (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10)--in his day! Also, let us acknowledge that the vision is a VISION. What should one expect in a vision? SYMBOLISM. Are you a...
  18. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    And there it is--the 2 Peter 3 "end-all-arguments-pertaining-time" ploy futurists love to use to attempt to end an argument. And every time they fail because the verse does NOT mean what they say it means. I don't "think" that I am "on to something," rebuilder. THAT is not my attitude. I seek...
  19. HappyOma

    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I did not mean that as an insult, rebuilder. I, too, was blinded by my preconceived ideas. We can all become blinded to truth if we will NOT look at the very words of Scripture in their CONTEXT. You are not looking at the words in their context! Are we willing to lay aside ANY belief we have if...