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Calvinists clearly claim that God chose to save them from before the foundation of the world and that man is incapable of choosing salvation himself. I need nothing but TULIP to prove their stance. However, it is quite possible that Calvinists don't know what God is talking about. It can...

The main evidence is Rev 21-22 — God doesn't win all the battles, but He wins the war. But look at Simon Magus, Acts 8. He believed and was baptized but God didn't accept him into the kingdom. God knows the heart and demands obedience to the gospel before He will forgive and save. That is...

Actually, there are 3 gospels. 1) The everlasting gospel (Ro 1:18-20, Rev 14:6) that applies when no other gospel is known. 2) The gospel of the kingdom — that when Messiah would come, He would forgive sins and set up His kingdom (Mt 4:23, 9:35, 24:14). 3) The gospel of Jesus Christ ...

Very good! Did you realize in writing this that there are many beliefs in God but only two operative gospels in effect now? One of those gospels, the everlasting gospel, knows the Godhead (Ro 1:18-20) worships and thanks Him but is not saved. In this group are largely children who cannot...

"Fate," events and destiny determined by the gods, was what the Greeks put in opposition to "free will." Calvinists chose to believe in fate (sovereignty of God) rather than free will (God-given sovereignty of man over his own choices and destiny). Assuming that He wants such sovereignty at...

BINGO .. He foreknew who would have faith ("Christians") and chose them! Here's what that equation looks like: FAITH = God chose you b/c you had faith in God. Now let's look at the other one: FATE = You have faith b/c God chose you. But in this case, what is your faith in? Is it in Christ...

God chose you = FATE You chose God = FAITH So which are you saved by .. FATE alone or FAITH alone?

Well, this is kind of going to blow your view of dispensationalism and of the rapture out of the water. Mt 13 is the unveiling by Jesus of the entire DISPENSATIONAL plan of God beginning with Adam, the seed sown on the wayside, through the 2nd coming judgments of Christ (13:39-50, cf. Mt...

4 Pointer, eh? However the author says that all five points either stand together or they all fall. skypair

I bought a good book recently .. Soteriology Simplified by Dr. Bob Hadley. It has a very good job of disemboweling Calvinism. It begins by pointing out that the central concept of Calvinism is the total sovereignty of God. "Calvin took this theme and made it the foundation upon which all the...

Well, to begin with, Paul was one of the 12. He took Judas "bishopric." Second, you are overlooking Acts 15, the church council wherein Peter and James decided that the Gentiles didn't need to practice the traditions of the law anymore. That didn't, however, change the gospel nor mean that...

Wow! Really?? The promises are to all who will be saved into the new covenant of grace. There are NO promises to those who are lost .. or do you know something I don't know? And is it your claim that those at Pentecost were not "church?" Peter was the apostle to the Jews and Paul to the...

...your THEOLOGY, or your RELIGION keep you OUT OF HEAVEN. Let's just face it, Christian, we ALL believe the part of the gospel of Jesus Christ that Paul stated clearly in 1Cor 15:1-4 -- "how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose...

No. Men are not ever "totally depraved." That notion follows the thought that man is biune in nature — only having body and spirit. But man is triune and there is on aspect of man that cannot be totally depraved by its very nature. That is the spirit of man .. his mind, emotions, and will...

Who was this guy? Jesus was talking about "this wicked generation," (Mt 12:45) the house of Israel. Lk 11:14-26 makes it even clearer. Jesus had been casting out devils. Likewise, while Jesus lived, He drove many of hte "unclean spirits" out of Israel taking their armor, their strength...

Ah! That is the Calvinist view of repentance .. where repentance is a "fruit" of salvation as depicted in 2Cor 7:9-11. Or a "gift" of salvation, 2Tim 2:25, right? But there are 3 forms of repentance, hte. 1) You change your mind (this is the one that Calvinists believe saves, BTW.). You...

I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier. :( Our sins are forgiven in God's eyes .. but they are not forgiven in our souls. The whole purpose of justification through repentance is to "reconcile" ourselves to God (2Cor 5:20) .. meaning that we our conscience is "washed" pure from sin (Titus 3:5)...

Absolutely! I'm with you. The problem I see is that there are now 2 gospels in the SBC. That is the reason for this thread. There is only one gospel .. and I am suggesting that it MUST be or follow the pattern of Acts 2:36-40. Compounding the problem is Jn 20:23. When Jesus gave His...

My view is that, in the SBC, the liberals who were fought off in the 1980's are now back in charge -- and are a combination of Sardis/Reform and Rich/Laodicean ignorant of God. skypair

I really posted this because the SBC operates under 2 gospels — one for Calvinists ("faith alone") and one for Traditionalist Baptists ("Repent") .. Calvinists/Sardis having taken over from Philadelphia in recent years. skypair