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  1. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Oops : the REASON God has not cast off His people is because He has preserved a remnant. Why did you leave that part out? Notice also He says "His people He foreknew" : those He foreknew He predestined, and called and justified. The unbelieving Jews are not called or justified, so they are not...
  2. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Well, we disagree : the content of the letter, to me, dictates the meaning of "Israel of God". In other words, Paul doesn't start a new argument, or raise a new term ("Israel of God"), without treating it, because all the preceding material already explains what he means. He has already called...
  3. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Galatians 6:16And as for all who walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.
  4. GracePeace

    The Roman Catholic Church Infallibility Thread

    This thread is for sharing Roman Catholic dogmas that are clearly debunked, which, in turn, debunk their claims of infallibility. As for myself, there are three I know of : 1. The Marian dogmas rest on the faulty assumption of Mary as the New Eve (eg, Mary has to be sinless, because Eve had...
  5. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL! What else am I relying on? I don't regularly read theology books, and I certainly didn't learn what I'm expressing from anyone else, it's just plain in Scripture.
  6. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    1. What, exactly, was Peter's Gospel, from which we can learn--and what is an example of what we can garner from "his" Gospel--and how did it differ from Paul's? 2. Do you take into account that Paul also preached to the Jews? a. Paul went to the Synagogue and preached his Gospel to Jews, not...
  7. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Well, I hold that they preached the Gospel, and it's just one Gospel. I don't want people confused by your nonsense.
  8. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    OK Thanks for the clarification. If they are "in Christ", are they not also the body of Christ? hlf
  9. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    1. You're saying that Peter and the other Jewish believers he preached to are "the remnant of Israel", and, therefore, are not "the body of Christ"? That's odd, since, when Paul was persecuting them, Jesus said, "Why are you persecuting ME?" LOL! 2. Did Peter abide "in Christ"? 3. Why is Paul...
  10. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    So, were you saying that Paul's Gospel caused people to be "in Christ", but Peter's did not?
  11. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Did Peter abide in Christ?
  12. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL! So if I can prove Paul preached that the Kingdom would come to earth, and that people should have faith in the Name of Jesus, that would prove they preached the same?
  13. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Here's an updated version. Galatians 2:7But on the contrary, seeing that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised... Even if you wanted to argue that Peter had one Gospel, and Paul had another Gospel, and these were different, and...
  14. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    So... in what way(s) did their Gospels ostensibly differ?
  15. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Yeah, meaning that the two had the same Gospel, but, here, in this incident outlined in Galatians 2, Peter was not walking in the truth of the Gospel, and, so, Paul, who believed the same Gospel, brought him back in line with the Gospel the two of them shared in common LOL
  16. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    No, it doesn't say "of", and, no, you can't prove they are different, and I proved they were the same, and I await your response to my having already proved they were the same.
  17. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Nope, they were just appointed to go and preach to two different people-groups : Peter was mainly to sent to the Jews, and Paul was mainly sent to the Gentiles, and both engaged in preaching the Gospel to eachothers' main audiences (Paul preached to Jews (eg, the Synagogue in Antioch in Acts...
  18. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    1. You missed the point : they agreed, their messages did not differ. The message of Peter is the same message of Paul, so, no, there is not a unique message with Paul, which, if it is believed, magically makes you part of Christ--as if, by contrast, the message of Peter, which "differs", does...
  19. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    A Jew is an Israelite. Paul is a Jew, and Israelite, of the remnant of Israel--and he's "in Christ", a member of the body of Christ, or else he could not have said that he had died with Christ. When Romans 6 says we are baptized into Christ, thus share in His death and in His resurrection, how...
  20. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL! They are not "remnants of Israel", they are "remnants" of Gentile nations--the majority of their nation is lost and destroyed, but those few souls are saved from among those Gentile nations. Your argument was that they were "remnant of Israel Gentiles", not "Gentiles", but they really are...