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  1. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    aw The OP of this thread asks people how they reconcile the verses, it doesn't ask anyone to copy and paste a block of text as proof why they have ignored either and gone with one of them (as you and others do--eg, as you've done here). The lady I was responding to was simply expressing her...
  2. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Also, Paul says, "I beat my body, make it into my slave, lest, after having preached to others, I myself become a castaway."
  3. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Yeah, I know you wanted to share your thoughts, but this is not the place for you to share what you've gathered; this is the place to answer the OP. The place to share your thoughts on John's Gospel would be a thread of your own.
  4. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    1. I asked this question : 2. The fact that the thread is called "Difficulty Reconciling", and then the OP goes on to describe the things I was having difficulty reconciling, you don't conclude that the question is "How do you reconcile these things?"
  5. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    None of this is an answer to anything I've said; you have a lot of irrelevant thoughts, and you should go make a thread about them, because I'm not interested in ANYTHING apart from you answering the answers I've already furnished to your nonsense "replies" to things I've stated. The issue is...
  6. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Do you believe that your empty denials prove your lies true? You mean like how I pointed out you repeated mine about yourself? I don't have alts. As I said, I have nothing but contempt for you and your gobbledygook, so don't waste your energy offering to "teach" your insanity. Yup, and I'll...
  7. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Your advice is not my concern, so you should find another place to give it. I trust the readers can see how deceptive you are being.
  8. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    I've already proven it, but, again, because you prefer deception, you don't admit it. That's fine, keep outing yourself to the readers. I agree you are theologically bankrupt utterly incapable of defending your incoherence--so on that point we can agree. Again, lies. I already clarified this...
  9. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Right, it's my thread, though, and that was the approach I chose. That is a process of refinement we go through as we spend time reading--ridding ourselves of our views, and coming to more Scriptural views (and Scriptural questions). Demonstrate how I did not let the author ask his questions...
  10. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Again, you prefer to hold to your lies against me than hear me out. I corrected your misunderstanding, and you refuse to admit your error. You're intentionally dishonest. Oops, this is my thread--you can run along, I'll stay here in my thread.
  11. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Yeah, you misunderstood me, because you see salvation as a once-for-all-occurrence, whereas I, believing the Bible, see it as an ongoing reality ("were saved", "are being saved", "will be saved", "now is our salvation nearer than when we first believed"). You even used the word "initial", which...
  12. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Nope, I never once argued--I also explicitly denied--that "initial" salvation or justification was by loving God. The issue was how CHRISTIANS abide in Him, and I proved it was by believing and loving, and you could never disprove it because it's explicitly stated (1 Jn 3:23,24). Why would I...
  13. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    You're still lying about what I said. Anyone can read what I said "we love Him because He loved us first". It's the same thing I'm doing with your incoherent babbling. Keep it up.
  14. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    I have explicitly denied this, so, again, you're being deceptive--it's apparently all you know how to do. I even corrected your misundertanding about my position, already--I said AFTER God loves us, then we can love God and others--but you're STILL lying about me. You INSIST on lying about...
  15. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    I invite all readers to see read how you've evaded, instead of answering, when your responses were addressed. You've given your views, yes, but when they were answered, you simply didn't answer. Now you want to be deceptive, and pretend you've answered--doesn't help your position look very good...
  16. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    Empty words. Either answer the answers already provided your vacuous nonsense or quit pretending you're up for discussion. No need to mention the idea of you "teaching" me ever again : as stated, I find you to be deceptive and lacking knowledge, and you run away in fear when your ignorance is...
  17. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    For the purpose of the OP, I wanted to stick to John's Gospel.
  18. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    You cannot justify, from Scripture, any of your vain ignorance--the idea that you are in a position to "teach" is laughable.
  19. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    I proved the works mentioned there were God's works and God's righteousness amd goodness, but you have no answer. When you feel brave, I guess, you can interact with the answer you were already given. Yup, now they are to walk in it, completing faith by works. 1. You're so funny : Jesus's...
  20. GracePeace

    Difficulty Reconciling

    1. "... obey... for it is God at work in you to will and to do for His pleasure" : when we obey, and work the works God is working in us, that counts as "God's righteousness apart from the Law" (Ro 3), so that's not our righteousness, nor our goodness, but God's righteousness and goodness. 2...