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The full sentence is, 1 Timothy 4:1-3 (WEB): (1) But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, (2) through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot...

I can't explain what you think about my posts! I can only reiterate that I am not a JW, I have never been a JW, and I have never been to a JW church (Kingdom Hall) or any of their meetings anywhere. I have spoken to JW's that have come calling at my home, as many people have also experienced.

More deliberate provoking slander! :rolleyes: Just picking a few verses I've mentioned in this thread: From post #475: The fallen angels are not eternally punished by being kept in darkness in Tartarus. They have been imprisoned there to await their judgement. 2 Peter 2:4 (WEB): (4) For if God...

I wasn't contradicting you, I was simply asking you to provide Biblical evidence to support your claim that "the concept of eternal punishment" is mentioned more times in the Bible than heaven is. I called your bluff, so it's up to you to prove it. So far you haven't. So let me do some work...

By whom? I've come to believe what I believe after learning from multiple sources over time, and always checking what the Bible says. Some things I used to believe I have since learned were not correct. I don't just believe what people tell me, I check for myself whether or not what they are...

Part of the duty of being a Christian is to defend the truth as presented in the Bible, and to defend the good character of God. In a Christian Bible discussion forum it is to be expected that there will be some disagreement on interpretation of the Bible, because we are not all at the same...

I meant where is the evidence that the concept of eternal punishment is mentioned more times than heaven, or the resurrection and eternal life. Just stating that hell is mentioned more times than heaven, without supplying evidence to back that up, is not convincing. I supplied evidence that...

Where's the evidence for that? Just stating it doesn't mean that it is the truth. Do the Scriptures say more about hell than about resurrection and eternal life?

What has it got to do with JW's? I stated the number of times that the words heaven and hell are mentioned, and I am not a JW. You can't seem to get JW's out of your mind!

That's not been my experience.

I'm surprised that you think that. Whenever I've spoken to Jehovah's Witnesses they've spoken of nothing except the Scriptures, and quote and read it nowadays from modern translations that other denominations use, rather that the New World Translation, so that there is no excuse to not believe...

Are you sure about that? Romans 3:10 (WEB): (10) As it is written, “There is no one righteous; no, not one. The Jews were expecting to be raised to life in the resurrection, and they knew Jehovah (YHWH). 1 Thesalonians 4:3-12 (WEB): (3) For this is the will of God: your sanctification...

Is it? A simple word search reveals that the word 'hell' is mentioned 54 times, whereas the word 'heaven' is mentioned 583 times (in the KJV).

I don't think that was the point that John was making in John 19:32-33, but yes, Adam was a type for Jesus, and Eve was a type for the Church, the bride of Christ (Romans 5:14 - "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those whose sins weren’t like Adam’s disobedience, who is...

Romans 5:12 (WEB): (12) Therefore as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin; so death passed to all men, because all sinned. We all die, because we were all born with a sinful nature and we all inherited a decaying, dying body from Adam - we share in Adam's...

I'm quite sure that Aunty Jane also believes Jesus. The difference is not that one believes Jesus and the other not, it's who correctly understands what Jesus and God taught, as recorded in the Bible. Consider these verses: 1 John 4:7-11,16 (ASV): (7) Beloved, let us love one another: for...

There is no mention there of any torture or torment, just dead bodies. The dead cannot feel anything! Everlasting life is simple enough to understand. The word that it translated as "contempt" is the Hebrew word dera’own which is only used twice - the other time is in the verse you just...

I posted some verses which says that when we die our thoughts perish. If we have no thoughts then we are unconscious, not able to think or experience anything. To torture an unconscious person is pointless and futile - they would have no knowledge of it; just like waking up after having had a...

Death is the lack of life, just as darkness is the lack of light. Here's the Bible's (God's word) definition of death: Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 (5) For the living know that they will die, but the dead don’t know anything, neither do they have any more a reward; for their memory is forgotten. (6)...

I presume you mean "your children". ;) Just because I'm willing to discuss it that does not mean that I am "hung up about it". :rolleyes: You obviously don't understand why I quoted those verses. The verses reveal what God thinks about killing people in fire, and show that it is inconceivable...