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  1. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Wouldn't this be a reference to the angelic beings? Of whom we are not now, nor will not be in the future? Now we have an earthly body, like Adam. Then we will have a spiritual body, like Christ. To my mind, the difference to between the 'heavenly' bodies and the 'spiritual' bodies is where...
  2. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Question: where did you get the idea that we would not sleep in eternity?
  3. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    So....when Jesus raised from the dead he was genderless? No...the bible clearly says *He* when talking about Jesus. And it doesn't say that there will be neither male or female in the eternal age, just that there won't be marriage. That means that we won't be spending our times and passions...
  4. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    I think I see your confusion....the conversation is not about the Millennial Kingdom or when it might be or what might happen during it. At all. The conversation is about the eternal age.
  5. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology thrown down in 1 verse?

    Well, I suppose we might have to disagree on the most obvious usage of these words. To me, the most obvious interpretation of "keep what is written" is for them to take heed of and do. In other words...for them to stay strong under persecution and stay firm in their testimony and to not loose...
  6. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    I think the bible is clear that just because a body is 'spiritual' doesn't mean its not also physical. Christ, when he resurrected, showing us the 'first fruits' of what was to come for us, had a body that was spiritual but also physical. He was able to disappear at will, but also eat and have...
  7. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Have you heard of those people who can do amazing things? Their called savants. There's something different about their brains...they're often autistic or have some other issue they struggle with...but with one thing, they are almost off the charts. There's this one guy, who can fly over a...
  8. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Where did you get this? It might be nice if you're right, but I'm not aware of any scripture that sheds light on this fact. We know that in our glorified bodies we will still eat. And, unless God does one heck of a make over to the whole system, wouldn't the concept of "what goes in must come...
  9. Naomi25

    The Sweet and bitter little book of Revelation 10

    Well where on earth did the animal come from then? Or, more importantly, the machine? Let's look back at the passage in question: Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth.... In appearance the locusts were like horses...
  10. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Oh! That's a good one! I agree. There are heaps of instruments I want to learn as well and haven't had the time, money or talent. I'm also really hoping that my singing voice will have been...upgraded. I love to sing, but I'm not sure those around me share my love...:p
  11. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Well, sure, I expect most things have been corrupted. But does that necessarily negate that they will be present and useful in the next age? Wouldn't that mean, then, if we followed it to its logical conclusion, that absolutely nothing (including us!) we see or have in this world would make it...
  12. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Not everything on earth is sinful. There will be some elements from here that continue on into the next age I think. I've heard some people argue that technology isn't sinful in and of itself, so perhap....personally I think it takes the mystery and fun out of it abit. Perhaps we could keep...
  13. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology thrown down in 1 verse?

    The problem I have with that is, if they were to guard it and pass it along, then the book should have said as much...especially if we're being literal. But it doesn't say that. So...are we attempting to be literal here, or at this point have we just completely abandoned the pretext of it? You...
  14. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Do you ever wonder what the New Jerusalem will be like? Do you think God will make use of technology, maybe even more advanced than we have now? Or do you think it'll be something completely other...something like Rivendell in Lord of the Rings? Open to nature because it's neither hot or cold...
  15. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    It's funny to think that time might work so much differently than what we're used to! Are we going to see time how God does now? Or, will we still be within time, so to speak, and he outside of it, and we just live forever? Things of eternity do my head in a little. There really is little more...
  16. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    I'm missing your point. Are you troubled because I'm using the word "renewed" instead of "destroyed and recreated"? Am I not being specific enough? Not that this thread was supposed to be specific at all, mind you. Remember the part where I said "let's speculate together?" It was supposed to...
  17. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    I sort of think you're missing the point. But, okay. What about this: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed. -2...
  18. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Earth made new. It's really something to think about isn't it? There are some places here on earth that haven't been touched that are staggeringly beautiful. Will it be like that everywhere? Or better? And yes, physical. As someone who struggles with health, I cannot wait to be able to dig in...
  19. Naomi25

    Behold, a New Heavens and a New Earth!

    Well, I disagree with the food thing. Not about the weeds and such, the hardship of 'bringing food forth' shall be gone! But back in the garden of Eden God said this: And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed...
  20. Naomi25

    The Sweet and bitter little book of Revelation 10

    I'm not trying to do anything except point out how...obviously ridiculous (sorry) this interpretation is. Not only does it go against your hermenutic, but it goes against logic and, apparently, your own description of what should be in that spot as well. I'm sorry if you think my pointing this...