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Oh boy! I long for this as well! Sometimes I just can't stand to be...me. The idea that I don't have to fight myself anymore...yeah...pretty amazing.

You're sort of missing my point. Yes, some prophecy is about future events. But not all of it. How often in the OT, in the "prophetic" books do we come across some announcement made by the prophet that has direct relavance to the people of that day? Some judgement due to their sin? Some warning...

And we should expect those things from a helicopter?

Two points here: Prophecy is not just about foretelling. It's also about forthtelling. For example: in Rev 10:11 and Rev 11:3 it uses the word 'prophesy'. However, in both cases the term indicates proclaiming the word, righteous acts and judgments of God, as opposed to 'predicting the future'...

Well, regardless of whether we think the OT tells us God will stand for National Israel in this time, or if we only believe Israel stands under her own steam at this present time, I'm not sure Iran has what it takes to take her down. They've spent a lot of years planning for just that and are...

I said that God's word is essential. It's essential to our doctrines, it's essential to forming them and it's essential to proving them. How is that saying nothing? Of course...if you disagree with me....?

Oh, I've made plenty of points and conclusions! I'm sorry if you missed them, but they're all still there if you care to go back and work through the scriptures I gave to back them up. One of them is that you have no argument because you have no way to support it. For the word of God is living...

And I think you're missing the obvious as well. As crude as the machines back then would have been, a woman was still a woman, and no animal ever operated with a person shoved inside it's hard, flat exteriors, peering out its eyeballs.

How does it look? I think it will look like the world ending. I think the atmosphere will be burning up and disappearing. I think it will be such a cataclysmic event that no one will mistake it for what it is: the earth shaking and trembling at the presence of God. To suggest that it will...

Well, if you quote scripture like this...by adding words to try and prove your point, then it's no wonder I "avoid" them. Except, I debate that conclusion. Your actual use of scripture is scant, and when you do use scripture, I reply with scripture of my own to debate your conclusion. If I...

No...I mean that each 'church' recieved the same copy. So, Ephesus recieved the letter which also had Christ's words to the other 6 churches as well. It didn't just recieve the letter to itself. The line of delineation is perhaps less clear then what Dispensationalists would prefer, however...

It'd be fun to see them try. For all that Iran is supposed to be this "big bad" they're pretty terrible at getting things done. Israel might be small in comparison, but they are terrifyingly efficient when it comes to this sort of thing. I could almost pity Iran....almost.

... for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is...

I read just fine. How about you? Are you saying that Eph 1:20 is incorrect? Are you saying that Jesus, at this moment, is not ruling and reigning? ..and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might that he worked in Christ...

Seriously? Just, "in Rev".... It's no wonder you don't quote actual scripture to back yourself up... Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of...

I would imagine it would be just as difficult for John to describe demonic beings as well. And considering the book consistently describes spiritual realities, I would prefer to take the 'literal symbolism' (if such a beast exists) of the image as that, rather than as helicopters with women...

Wow. That's a very...literal...interpretation. Earthquakes have to be earthquakes. Volcanoes have to be volcanoes. 1000 years has to be 1000 years. But when the sky vanishes, that means heavy cloud cover? Riiiight. Sure. Okay. And in Rev 20:11 when earth and sky flee away from the one on the...

But we're not talking about earthquakes or volcanoes. Or at least, just those. When the bible says "earth and sky fled away", or "the sky vanished like a scroll being rolled up" (6:14; 20:11) or "every mountain and Island was removed from its place" (6:14; 16:20), these are cataclysmic, world...

Actually, there is decent historical evidence that the Amillennial view existed side by side with the Premillennial one in the early Church, maybe not in the same numbers, but there non-the-less. And was, in particular, dominant from the 5th century to the 16th one. And the Premillennial view...

Actually, I would contend that the "wrath" that the bible speaks of Christians avoiding, particularly in the end times, is always spoken of in the context of salvation/damnation. It is not a matter of 'trials and tribulations' on earth, but of wrath of final judgement. Whoever believes in the...