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Isn't it true that the reason there is no condemnation for those in Christ is because they are not sinning? 1 John 3 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. In Romans 8:1, Paul had just described the plight of a Jew under the Law--ie, being mastered...

I just want to clarify: just because I think (and, I think, can prove--and have proven) you all have an inaccurate explanation of the Gospel, that does not mean I also think you all are condemned or cut off from God. Far from it. Your own personal knowledge of God would refute me if I said that...

I said nothing that you didn't say about me--you said I was uninformed about "the whole counsel of God", and I said the same of you and yours, except I have been furnishing proof.

Right. That's why I raise the topics and points I do--you guys ignore certain things.

Romans 8:12,13 We are indebted to God--if we walk after the flesh, we will die, but if by the Spirit we mortify the deeds of the flesh we will live. Salvation is a gift, it just doesn't mean what you think it means, if we read 1 Corinthians 10--you're adding to and subtracting from its definition.

You don't. You think anything anyone does, any "activity", is a "work". That's not the testimony of Scripture. When, for instance, Paul reprimands the Galatians (his reprimanding them to bring them back into the faith, again, disproves your idea that Christians automatically live as God...

Well, not that it's that important, but there is speculation that this is an inference that Paul believes that part of Gentile believers being grafted in to Israel includes this aspect of inheriting the fathers--eg, Abraham is their father. Also, whether Paul is addressing Jewish believers or...

I don't mind anyone thinking my point is wrong, but, if I've already answered your point, then, instead of repeating it, as if it had not already been answered, answer the answers that had already been supplied your point. That's how discussions work. I know. The Law shutting every mouth (Ro...

OK, so, I was mistaken in thinking "You think the contexts are going to help prove your point", but not because you thought they would prove my point, but because you do not think along the lines of "proving your point" at all, you're hoping to get a better understanding even if it invalidates...

So, you WEREN'T saying you thought discussing the context would help prove your point? Did you (correctly) think it would prove my point then? Lol I'm not sure why you objected to my having said that. Maybe you can clarify.

1 Co 10 discusses those who were typologically "saved", and what happened to them bc they sinned after typological salvation, in order to teach us who are actually saved in the anti-type.

I'm not sure what this means. Examine away. I want to discuss 1 Co 10. If someone is joining the conversation, and they immediately are veering from 1 Co 10, bringing something else up, without even having addressed the topic, I'm not going to accept that. I also don't want people running...

SALVATION IN THE CONTEXT OF 1 CORINTHIANS 10--and WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU ARE SAVED IN THE CONTEXT OF 1 CORINTHIANS 10. The reply I had given was because the person was talking about how salvation can't be earned, and I was denying that my discussion about 1 Corinthians 10 was a denial that...

The title of the thread is The discussion has centered around what I claim 1 Corinthians 10 teaches. That should be sufficient evidence to you that that is the topic, and that you ought to address it, but you don't pay attention to the evidence--as you also do with Scripture, such that you...

The "discussion" is, as has already been noted, about 1 Corinthians 10.

This isn't your thread: address what Paul says about the matter in 1 Corinthians 10. That is the subject of the thread.

You don't know what "works" are. The issue with "works" is that they are "a righteousness of my own"; when someone walks by faith, that is "God's righteousness revealed from faith to faith" (Ro 1:17, 14:5, 23) by which they are justified, and, if they do not reveal God's righteousness by doing...

My point was not that "you must agree", but that you ought to have answered those answers already supplied, and not have brought the same point that had already been answered, as if it had not already been answered. No, Paul teaches that the Law is a type and shadow of things to come--the...

Contrary to your empty accusation, I can quote the passage--and my quoting the passage isn't going to help you. Hebrews 10 38BUT MY RIGHTEOUS ONE SHALL LIVE BY FAITH; AND IF HE SHRINKS BACK, MY SOUL HAS NO PLEASURE IN HIM. Who is the "he"? "My righteous one". That was why I said...

You need to define "gift" as Scripture defines "gift", not as naked (ie, uninformed by Scriptural precedent) "logic" defines it: God "gave" the Jews the land, yet they were to go and "take" the land by conquest (Deut 1:8)--this is in exact keeping with eternal life being a "gift", and with Paul...