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No. Threatening other people is abusive and wrong. That's the problem.

If you want to talk about that subject, you can always start a thread on it. This one is about the actions of street preachers.

Aka street preachers abusing people in the name of God. Yes, The preachers sins in that regard. Pardon my bluntness here, but i don't think I'm getting through to you any other way. A person who uses threats is abusive. To do so in the name of God is spiritual abuse of others. It is...

If they're using fear/threats to motivate people, then by definition they are using fear/threats as their primary force. That's not the subject here.

The main issue here is not denying of God's wrath. It's using God's judgment as an excuse to abuse people and paint God as a wrathful monster. It is those types of preachers-- those that capitalize on fear and hatred and burning/cliff/drowning analogies that I am speaking out against. It is...

Have you seen as I've seen: people leaving God completely because of spiritual abuse from Hell-preachers? Or people who are a church regularly, but have no real relationship with God, but are there for fire insurance?

This is true, however the fear motivation the sinful natural man and is toxic for a relationship and should be fought against. It should never be encouraged as a abuser or Hell-focused preacher would do. I didn't say anything about classing people into different categories. This applies to...

Here I'll use analogy from my morning: My elementary aged daughter did something bad (yelled and tantrumed at her dad). She could either 1) Realize that this was bad, be sad that she made dad sad, and come to dad with a loving "I'm sorry, I'll be better" and a loving hug. 2) Be afraid that...

Do you understand the difference between 1) acknowledging that something is bad vs 2) having that fear of the bad / punishment being your primary motivator

Salvation doesn't come via fear. Salvation comes via love.

You are trying to provoke action via fear and threats. Those are abusive tactics, not of God. God is LOVE. Preach LOVE. Be a shepard who leads through love. Not a sheep-herder that uses dogs and force.

People whom try to evangelize via fear and threats are the wife beaters: demanding submission, rather than loving. Such is not of the Lord.

You misunderstan: God doesn’t use fear based evengelicism. He is love, the opposite of fear. The wife beaters here are those humans that leave the Lord’s way to preach via fear, threats, and other perverted tatitcs. Such never makes a real disciple of Christ. My heart goes out to all that...

The Gospel is a message of love. Discipleship is the product of love. Threats and fear only spawn more threats and fear. That's nothing more than the cycle of abuse.

The focus of the Sermon on the Mount is not remotely fear. Same with rest of scripture.

Preach love, which is the foundation of discipleship. Not fear, as if selling fire insurance.

I thank you for actually addressing my question. I don't reproach the Lord. The people I reproach are preachers that metaphorically tell their daughter's suitor to get lost for proposing marriage via threatening, and then preach marriage to the Lord via threatening. No marriage, to man or...

All I've seen is you evading rather than answering a simple "yes" or "no" question. Do you believe that a proper relationship between a man and a wife is one where the wife is threatened and motivated out of fear?

For a fourth time, I'll ask the question: Do you encourage your daughter to be in a marriage with a man who threatens her, and if you think such marriage is the meaning of true love.

Once again you refuse to answer the question.