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  1. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Because you think that the temple is about "earning" salvation. It's not.
  2. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    You don't even understand the purpose of the temple. You keep thinking it's about "earning" your way to salvation, which is completely wrong. No. Just no. Quit thinking anything is about "earning" your way to Heaven or about avoiding Hellfire. Instead, think about Christ, and embracing Him...
  3. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    You wants a Law-of-Moses style list? Because that's really missing the point.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Matthew 22: 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Every true disciple of Christ shall spend eternity rejoicing with the Father. (Note: I'm saying true here. Not those who just put in lip service)
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    No one is talking about the reward of getting to spend eternity with our Heavenly Father either. Giving 100% of what you have & are is done out of love, not out of "purchasing" or "earning" something. We give everything because we love Him and strive to follow Him.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    No one is talking about earning a reward here. Rather, we give 100% of everything we have/are because we love Him and out of that love are striving to follow Him (empowered by Him). Giving everything to the Lord includes a willingness to give a small portion of our finances. Yes, the Lord...
  8. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    And yet you call it unbiblical that LDS Christians believe everything includes a small part of our financial goods? When Christ asked the young rich man to sell everything? I do not. Nor is it a heavy burden.
  9. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Are you willing to give everything you have and are to Him?
  10. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I 100% agree that the Bible doesn't teach cheap grace. However, comments you were making (and many "anti cultists" make) conveys the message that you're promoting cheap grace. LDS Christians believe very much that being a Christian is being a disciple of Christ-- following Him. Not half...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    The #1 most common misconception LDS Christian have of Evangelicals is that Evangelicals believe in cheap grace, a misconception propagated by comments like the above. Salvation isn't a license to sin. God's grace isn't something cheap or that we should treat cheaply with shallow/insincere...
  12. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Salvation is not a ticket for anyone to sin or idolize things of this world! We are His, bought with a price, and are STILL charged to follow Christ and His commandments, giving everything we have/are to Him.
  13. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Did Jesus not tell the young rich man to sell what he had and follow Him? A story not recorded once in the Bible, but three times? Does the Bible not warn about those whom shall rob God? How many warnings does it have to those whom treasure the riches of the earth more than Heaven? I don't care...
  14. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    We've already talked about how it's 100% Biblical that Christ asks for *everything* that we have/are. Example: Him asking the young rich man. This is not a heavy burden, but rather a person denys themself to follow Him. Prayer Warrior, I acknowledge that you don't agree with LDS Christian...
  15. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I prefer to take things one subject at a time and Mjr29 is focused on the God/man question.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Are you defining "God" ultimately as a person consisting a special substance, as stated in the Athanasian Creed? Are you defining "man" as a person not consisting of that special substance? Are you defining "man" as a person sentence for Hell because of semen? Are you defining "God" using the...
  17. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Mjh29, are you willing to actually talk theology here? If you don't, that's fine. But that's not on me.
  18. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    And what if you're talking to a (hypothetical) person whom doesn't even know what a car is, let alone a car crash? Ditching the analogy: say you're hypothetically coming in here believing that God is ultimately defined as a person consisting a special substance, and man is ultimately defined...
  19. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Mjh29, maybe I'm misunderstanding you here (that's vey possible). On one hand it seems that you say "it doesn't matter how 3 are 1, you just need to believe that they are one". But then on the other hand you seem to say "well, if you don't believe the wrong answer in how 3 are 1, then you're...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    LDS Christians likewise believe that we will always serve our Father and He will always be our Father, even when we are joint-heirs with Christ.