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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I don't know how many times I've stated that I'm OCD honest and despise proselytizing on forums.
  2. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Because I tested I thoroughly through prayer, scripture study, thoughtfulness, experience etc. See Thessalonians 5, especially verse 21.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Clarifications on the Trinity subject: LDS Christians believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are three person in one God. That's all the same. The three are believed to be one through unity, versus through consubstantiality as stated in the Athanasian Creed.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    For an LDS Christian, somethings are indeed Thus Saith the Lord. Why does an indicviaul believe that? Because they asked God. Other subjects do ahve specualtion in them, and hence why I highlight when that's the case.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    It's not a deflection, it's addressing what I've found most Creedal Christians are thinking when they ask that question. And no, nothing like that. By "God" here you are referring to the Father specifically. I just addressed the subject of the Father's past: There isn't a single scriptural /...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    For LDS Christian, the highest authority is God Himself. Not any book, Creeds, or man's thoughts. God. That is your interpretation.
  7. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Not in any way you're thinking of with a birth canal, lots of screaming, and a person coming to be that didn't exist at all 12 month before hand. There isn't a single scriptural / autoreactive statement on the subject. LDS Christian readily acknowledge that we don't know everything about God...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    On that we'll just have to agree to disagree.
  9. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Even with the oldest manuscripts and working strictly within sola scriptura Protestantism, you'll still find huge disagreements about beliefs. Example: Calvinism and Armininsim.
  10. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Amen to that a million times over!
  11. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    LDS Christians are Christians. Not Protestant Christians. Not Catholic Christians. But Christian nonetheless.
  12. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Because I want you to validate your epistemological methodology here without any hypocrisy, else this entire discussion is groundless. Should I learn about Protestantism form the ex protestant that tells me they taught cheap grace?
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Do you acknowledge that the road you are taking endorsing the idea that LDS Christians should learn from the ex-Protestants who say Protestantism teaches cheap grace, Modalism, and that it's ok to sleep with whomever because you're already saved?
  14. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Not just occasionally: they are rampant. So much so that your typical LDS Christian believes that Evangelicals believe in cheap grace and that the Father/Son/Spirit are one person. Now: should a person get thier information from ex folks, or from actually asking a person of that faith?
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I'm the hypocrisy and fallacy in your approach. You want to seek ex folks when learning about other people's faiths, but reject such a mythology being applied to your own faith. I could easily learn about Protestantism from an ex-Protestant. And they will tell me how they were taught cheap...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I majority appreciate you posts (this one and many previous). On this particular subject, we do disagree, as I believe Christ >> the Bible. Which isn't to diss the Bible at all, but to remember the supremacy of God. Yeah, we disagree on this too for many sub-points. I see man's ideas trying...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Who do I ask you about your beliefs and what your teaches? Shall I ask you? Or shall I ask my friend Mike that grew up Protestant and then converted to an LDS Christian?
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    If you want to know anything, you're free to ask, including for sources. Just ask. If you don't want to know / don't care, then that's your choice too.