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  1. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Then start treating me as such.
  2. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Thank you for this well thought out post. Axe grinding makes someone/something a bad source. Being an ex-whatever doesn't automatically make someone a bad source or a good one. It's just there past. To figure things out for yourself: naturally, a person should verify things for themselves...
  3. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Do you intend to keep treating me as an object to be "saved" by you?
  4. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    But did you really offer an olive branch? Or, despite your words, is it your intention to continue treating me as an object rather than acknowledging my relationship with Christ?
  5. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    An apology where you have zero intention of changing your ways isn't an actual apology.
  6. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Pardon me, but I don't think God drives you to ignore people's relationship with Christ, to rely on hypocritical reasoning, or ignore facts. That is the sinful part of you speaking. We all have it. Btu we also need to fight it and walk in Christ's ways. Are you going to acknowledge my...
  7. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Then start doing so. I've been treated like an object here rather than a person -- let alone a disciple of Christ. And I'm really really sick of it.
  8. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    And by “truth” you mean illogical hypocritical witch hunts that ignore the facts? And treating people like objects rather than disciples of Christ? Cause I’m really sick of that type of “truth” and “love”.
  9. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I believe what I do BECAUSE of scripture and God.
  10. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    What logic is there to be had here? I have repeatedly asked for you to demonstrated some, you have not and just continued to use the same flawed methods. I also have refuted many points just to be ignored. You just keep repeating the same hearsay. There is no logic when conversing with you...
  11. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Where in the Bible does it say that "test for Truthfulness by asking ex-members of a faith?" Where does it say "and an archeologist will reveal the Truth to you!" And where is my archeological proof starting right at the beginning of the Bible? Not only non-existent, but contradictory. Where...
  12. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Except that: 1) BYU isn't seminary at all. LDS Christians don't even have what a Protestant would call a seminary (LDS "seminary" is something different). 2) BYU isn't remotely exclusive and does welcome non-LDS folks there, including as tenured professors. 3) She was a professor of...
  13. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    No youu have not: you have not remotely addressed the epistemological methodology. Until you do so, every time you try to site Lynn you're completely failing every single logic test and just shows hypocrisy. And frankly, my patience for that hypocrisy has already been exhausted.
  14. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Until you literally say "yes, you should ask Mike and trust him about what Protestant teach", then there's no point in discussing Lynn because your very epistemological methodology is groundless and fails every possible test from the get-go.
  15. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Mike tells me how his Protestant church taught about cheap grace, Modulism, and that it was fine for his 15 year old self and his girlfriend to sleep together (because they were already saved). He's got lots of quotes about it too. Now, should a person ask an ex-axe-grinder what they believe...
  16. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Hey: should I really believe all the junk that my ex-Protestant friend Mike tells me about what Protestant teach? Until you say "yes", there's no logical grounds for you to keep trying to pursue this epistemological method.
  17. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I test thoroughly. That includes extensively "now, what do we think about this using just the Bible alone?" If you want here about other tests, (including attending and studying at the various Protestant churches you've attend), feel free to ask.
  18. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I'm not a protestant I made that clear from day 1. Though the theological disagreement is much more with the Athanasian Creed than the Nicene.
  19. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    All of the above, in different combinations, yes including the using just the Bible.