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  1. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    No...biblical theology. Can you show me, biblically, anything that contradicts what I've said?
  2. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    Okay...where are the verses showing this "new", different covenant to the houses of Judah and Israel? Mind you...we're talking distinctly different from the "new" covenant than the "new" covenant we are under now, if you please. You are essentially hocking that the bible teaches 2 "new"...
  3. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    This is not an unbiblical or an absurb notion. We know the promise God made to Adam and Eve to save mankind was from an "offspring". We know that God promised Abraham that his "offspring" would bless the world and receive the covenant promises made to him. We know that God changed Jacob's name...
  4. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    I'm sorry, but this does not "cut it". You are saying that the bible specifically lays out that there is a distinction between the Church and Israel, covenantal wise for their redemption, and that for their covenant to "kick in" the Church has to be removed first. If you want this interpretation...
  5. Naomi25

    Jack Van Impe preaching=Jesus is about to Return!!

    Proof. Hmmm....proof. What is this proof you speak of? Is it the proof that Jack has when he walks away from his predictions that Christ was going to return in 1976, or 2000 or 2008 or 2012 or this year? If he truly was "God's last prophet" as he declares himself, why does he need to keep...
  6. Naomi25

    Get Your Demons Cast Out So You Won't Need Lyrica - Formication, Fibromyalgia

    Agreed. Although, I do wonder how they do that. Placebo effect of the moment? People want to believe so hard, they get so hyped about it, that it works for a short while? Or perhaps there is some supernatural elements involved, just not of the heavenly kind. I assume people's faith would waver...
  7. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    Eh, sure. Vine, tree. Christ uses both to describe himself. I'm having a bad morning and mixed them up, but it doesn't really change the point about my illustration or the text I referred to, I think. Okay, sure...the olive tree has always been. But...where is the verse that says that there...
  8. Naomi25

    Get Your Demons Cast Out So You Won't Need Lyrica - Formication, Fibromyalgia

    You may mean well, but the harm people like you do is immeasureable. Not all illnesses are because of Demons, and not all illnesses are because of ongoing sin in someone's life, or a lack of faith on their part. If you have health, thank God for it, but do not presume you know a single thing...
  9. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    Ok. Israel. There's a few things I'd say about Israel. First: regardless of them being back in the land, their cohesion as a national people was still essential. They wouldn't have been able to come back to their land as a people if they'd been assimilated into the lands they'd been driven out...
  10. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    I can agree that these things are increasing in occurance. And I think that, yes, that does hold meaning for us, and we should be watching. I just think we cannot...should not lay a claim to the moment being upon us because of these things. It's beyond us to know that. Yeah...see, this is where...
  11. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    This...this is good. As in...thought provoking. As a mother, I can tell you...you are spot on about the birth pangs. It does work exactly like that. The pain comes, then it leaves for a bit, but then it comes back, a little harder and a little longer. The "off" times get shorter and the "on"...
  12. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    The Nation of Israel did not exist. The people of Israel did, and they have been hated and killed just fine without a piece of land. You say that like before that people where stupid and living in caves. What about the tower of babel, where God was so alarmed at the progress of people that he...
  13. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    2 Peter 2:19 is Peter talking about false teachers enticing others to become as they are: slaves to sin and deceit. I can't quite see how it has any bearing on how we should be looking to prophecy or the scriptures to determine the when of our Lords second coming. And, I suppose those that...
  14. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    Well...these things didn't happen on the dates of "sky events" either...they've just happened over the course of the past few years. So...which is it...either these signs in the sky herald particular events...which should be obvious and corresponding...or they do not, in which case they are just...
  15. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    I think signs and wonders can help us 'keep looking up', as we're surrounded daily by tragedy. But by themselves they shouldn't be the only reason why we're looking up. I think we should expect his return daily because the bible tells us too, it tells us to live that way, in expectation and in...
  16. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    I'm sorry, but haven't those who believed in the blood moons and the 'great sign' last year been resoundingly proved to be wrong? As in...nothing happened? There is only so many times that people who stand up and say "it's going to happen then"..."no...then"..."whoops, then"...can be taken...
  17. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    Ah...yeah? My point was that these things would increase as we went along. But, you cannot say that these things were not present back then, because they were. And you cannot say that there will be a 'tipping point' at which Christ will return...a point that scripture labels that will be 'bad...
  18. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    To a certain extent, perhaps. But, I see a concerning amount of people looking at their bibles and going "aha! Wars and rumors of wars! We have those! The time is at hand!" And they don't read the context of that passage, where Christ says that these things must take place, but the time is not...
  19. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    You do realise that this list of "signs" have been with us ever since Christ left, right? And that in the Olivet Discourse he told us that these things "must take place", but we shouldn't panic. I think the only real point you could make is that these things are increasing in frequency, as was...
  20. Naomi25

    Convergence of Signs tells us the Return of Jesus is very Near and the Rapture is Imminent!!

    Okay...firstly, I have eyes...they are both open and on scripture. And because of these things, I think someone who likes to post repeated threads simply saying "woo, look at the signs, it's happening!" is perhaps being sensational and nothing more. I mean...I'm all for being excited for...