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Indeed only God can judge the state of someones soul, and I happily leave that to him! And I do not strive to be a trouble-maker or someone who stirs contention. But I feel compelled to stand for the truth of God's word and his teachings to us. It's to him I'll answer one day; for either not...

It's nice that you think that these things apply to "not the Rapture" and "then the Rapture", but do you have anything other than your opinion to support it? Why should we accept your opinion that "the end" that is spoken about in these verses, this "coming of Christ" and what will happen at...

Nope, can't say I have. My bible study group went through Micah recently, but I haven't been through Malachi...hmm, I can't remember how long!

This is really well put, and I love it. On your point that perhaps in bbyrds mind, our 'pontificating' truth is arrogance in opposition to God's infinite nature....it might well be arrogance if we attempted to speak this truth solely on our own. But when we are using God's own words, and God's...

Ok. It could be a serious case of us not "getting" him. It could be that he has a unique way of looking at the world that should be appreciated. And it could be that such "gifts" would serve a purpose, both here, and beyond. However, what I feel I must question, both about him and about your...

Hi brakelite! I agree that the New Jerusalem could very well come down at the end of the Millennium, but I suppose it then depends when that Millennium is! As for whether the wicked are raised separately from the just....I'm not sure, don't these verses suggest that perhaps they are raised...

What? Well, how about that Christ isn't coming again at the end of the age? The bible out right says it, but you don't like it, so you wave your hand and says it means something else. What about your insistence that Christians aren't supposed to take the gospel to all nations, making disciples...

Not that I can see what this has to do with what the bible has to say about the salvation of mankind, but: Are you perhaps, not planning on "literally dying"? Do you see that as an option? No, I don't. I don't think you want to joke about this. The bible has some pretty harsh words about those...

So, basically, when you read the bible, you don't read it as a Christian, you read it as a book of philosophy, trying on it's 'pearls of wisdom' to see if it fits your world view. If it doesn't, you toss it, or twist it and move on to the next. No wonder your views are so messed up. Well. Wow...

I'm sorry, but the text simply does not support this. Let's look at it again, so it's not just my say so: But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every...

. He identifies in his profile as a Christian, so the words "why is Zeus/Jupiter in our Bibles as our Father (capitalized)" suggested to me he was saying the Bible says Zeus/Jupiter is our Heavenly Father. I'm not trying to get him in trouble for saying it. I'm just saying the turn of words he...

I think there is biblical proof to show that 1 Thess 4:16-17 is indeed, speaking of the second coming. Let me show you: For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise...

I've heard some heretical things from you. But this? This is outright Blasphemy.

Mmmm. Yet, I notice you don't say, like in your previous argument, that the bible doesn't actually say to do this. Now you're just trying to claim that my interpretation is faulty. Notice how everytime the bible doesn't say what you want it to say you just try and twist the text like its a wax...

bbyrd! :rolleyes: This is my point! What argument? How on earth is someone supposed to step back from a conversation with you and go "I know what this guy is arguing for...or against! I will dazzle him with my brilliant argument by showing him x,y or z". No....you're too busy asking yourself...

You know..."Life more abundantly" does NOT mean you have superior understanding, and THAT'S why I don't understand you. I don't understand you most of the time because your seeming grasp of the English language or punctuation and grammer is lacking. Those who start a thought thinking people 1)...

Well...I suppose it is at that. I know that lately, as we see a rise in the 'lone wolf' attacks, there is growing fear of just not knowing when or who might just up and come at you with a knife, or car, or bomb. You can't stop what it essentially birthed and enacted out in a single mind...

Ok...you do realise that what you say 95% of time makes zero sense. I mean, what the heck does Anabaptists and autism have to do with anything? If you have a point to make with them, for goodness sake, spell it out. For someone who IS autistic, even I know you have to actually give people...

How is having a plastic tree...which we have had as long as we have been married...19 years...going to "kill the planet". Do you expect the plastic tree to release some sort of toxic gas? Grow horrific limbs, turn into a monster and go off and eat and kill many forests/animals/humans? It's a 5...

Just a thought: ever tried a plastic Christmas tree?