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  1. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Purity, Way to completely ignore the text itself that explicitly says, "For everything was created by Him...." It doesn't say, everything fall under his control, though not visibly. Gimme a break. You have to be kidding me. The context has to do with eating and drinking food offered to...
  2. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Ego eimi is used far more than 7 times in John. What you are reading is probably in reference to the 7 "I am" declarations Jesus makes of himself in John's Gospel. 1) I am the bread of life 2) I am the light of the world 3) I am the gate 4) I am the Good Shepherd 5) I am the resurrection and...
  3. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    nothead, Here you are at Greek again...haven't we discussed this? Your theories are like the book of Mormon...constantly changing when errors are pointed out. 1) you need to understand what ego eimi means. Eimi means "to exist, to be, am." Eimi is a first person pronoun so it means "I...
  4. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Yes, well I enjoy your humor and try to add a little of my own. Besides, I have to try to bring some joy to this very sad method of biblical interpretation you have on display :). Well, this is pretty debatable. I think the "I am" statement is far more significant, personally as not only is...
  5. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Well I hope you don't think I am bullying. Just having a bit of fun since it seems you enjoy some friendly jabs. Ill try to respond to your points when I have time later.
  6. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Why don't you quote the actual cite or page of the book you are taking these references with regard to "Elohim." I have a feeling they are not saying what you are implying because no scholar or lexicon I have ever read makes these implications of "categories of Elohim" as if the meanings are...
  7. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    nothead, Subordinationism in forms of Arianism and so forth were condemned while their proponents lived. It is quite different from the teaching of subordination in the Bible (however some early quotes used designating subordinationism is NOT a defense of Arianism and other heresies as you...
  8. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Rocky, God can be both person and Spirit. Person, as it refers to the Deity comes from the Greek word persona which has to do with intellect, will, volition, emotion and so forth. Purity, I love the historical revisionist work you do. Nothing like quoting only a small portion of something...
  9. Wormwood

    Something my pastor said during service

    CJ, I feel that your feeling of what I am feeling is not what I am feeling at all. I just am not overly interested in majoring in minors. You want to make it a big deal, but to me it is not. You say conviction and big deal... I say, "meh." That's the difference.
  10. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Well, I'd do one better and quote Scriptures to you...but you would probably appeal to the Greek which then refers to the Hebrew or Aramaic which was based on Egyptian hieroglyphics that clearly shows that words like morphe, ikon, apaugasma (radiance), or carakter of his houpostaseus (exact...
  11. Wormwood

    Something my pastor said during service

    CJ, It's one thing to have convictions about debatable matters, and quite another to condemn and harass people who disagree with you. Clearly you have a weak conscience on this issue and you feel very limited with the freedom you have in Christ. That is fine, but do not impose your...
  12. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    No, that would be three persons of similar natures. The Trinity is three persons with one exact, identical nature. The Trinity does not deny God's oneness. Just because it doesn't make sense to you doenst mean it isn't true or isn't proposing that God, is in fact, one. The notion that the...
  13. Wormwood

    Something my pastor said during service

    CJ, It appears I am following along better than you are. Did you not say... RJ had a very appropriate response of driving and voting which you denounced as off point because they are not "sinful." But this IS the point! You are trying to establish what is or is not sinful based on what...
  14. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Rocky, Here are some other words you wont find in the NT: Oneness, Pentecostal, Calvinist, Arminian, Amillennial, Post-Millennial, Pre-Millennial, Dispensational, Wesleyan, Catholic, Lutheran, Unitarian, Arian, Modalism, Creationism, Evolution, and the list can go on and on. Whether or not...
  15. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    What makes a man vile is his/her sin. Being a physical and tangible entity does not make one "vile." Again, that is pure Gnosticism derived from Platonic thought. It is not Christianity. Yes the fullness of God was "in" Christ. Jesus the Messiah was fully human. A human being. Someone...
  16. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Agreed justaname. The arguments against the Trinity on this forum so far usually neglect to account for either Christ's humanity or divinity. The beauty of the doctrine is that it doesn't neglect either because both are clear in Scripture.
  17. Wormwood

    Something my pastor said during service

    All these arguments against the morality of alcohol in moderation are non sequitur. Our actions in a particular social setting or our culture's expectations have no bearing on the actual teachings of the Bible or what constitutes immoral behavior. I highly doubt any biblical ethicist has ever...
  18. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    justaname, I think nodhead's official position is best summarized by his statement below: my dear nodhead. If only the antiquity of the language and the historical context could allow us to flip the biblical text on its head, pull it inside out and make it read the exact opposite of what it...
  19. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Hmmmm.....this must explain why Gordon Fee agrees with you about John 1:1-3. Oh, wait.... Amen and Amen and Touche' and Let it be so upon thouest noddy who likes to take both the Bible and its scholars out of context. Amen. Well, actually you tried to until it was found you cant argue from...