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Yes there is always that. However, when the train is in the station and the track number called out, that is the time to get ready to board. There is not a whole lot of time to be a glutton at the station snack bar, or get corked and pass out in the station bar. By that time we either have our...

The end of the world for us is when we are redeemed in the air to meet Him. The end of the world can mean many things and refers to a time when all things come to an end here, and Jesus returns to rule. The second coming of Jesus with His saints as well as His coming in the air seem to me to be...

I agree that is a sign of the end. The thing is it would need to be among the signs Jesus had just spoken about. Now when people fall away they might do things like turn in their families and etc. So it all fits. But I think the thread is specifically about the signs Jesus mentioned here. Then...

He said look up when we start to see these signs. That is not at the end of the Trib! You have been corrected.

Not the wicked. They will not be able to hide. In case anyone has the slightest doubt, God speaks here- Amos 9:1 I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, Smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake: and cut them in the head, all of them; and I will slay the last of them...

We should anticipate our redemption when we start to see the signs for it is here suddenly. It could not be in the same vein as business as usual through the ages! That is why Jesus mentions it. When we start to see the signs boom, watch out it is time to look up. When we begin to see some signs...

In the sixth seal, as pointed out not all the wicked are yet slaughtered. They hide in mountains etc. When He returns He metes out swift justice. So you can't claim the 6th seal is in the Trib.

We see this in the sixth seal 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Jesus returns after the Tribulation. People...

Let's not pick out a verse or two and try to limit all signs to that. In those verses He Himself pointed out that was not the signs in question. However look at the whole passage. I will bold the signs I think could apply to the signs that begin to happen when our redemption is at the gates...

Actually we are told when a few verses before that. Isaiah 62:11 The Lord has made proclamation to the ends of the earth: "Say to Daughter Zion, ‘See, your Savior comes! See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him.'" Lest there be any doubt, the matter is dealt with...

Well, maybe not all are here yet. The things concerning the Tribulation and etc in that chapter. However all that matters is whether we have started to see any or some of the signs!

Yet the bible clearly lists the seals as the wrath of God. You do realize they are opened in the end? No doubt that sort will be tested in those days along with the rest of the world! The ones who believe in Jesus will be caught up to meet Him when we start to see or begin to see the signs...

Right. Part of the reason is that meeting Jesus, and going up in the air forever to be with Him, and having our new bodies. I agree that also we could tack on that we just got delivered from the horrors that will come on the earth in that time. The whole package is our blessed hope. About the...

We are not told that only the signs in a few verses are what He was talking about. The signs talked about included earthquakes and pestilences and a lot of things. Yes the 2 verses you cite are talking about the Tribulation. But the signs are not limited to that. I would tend to include after...

I would still look up knowing our redemption is at hand. How could that be at the very start of those things, if we had to go through all that wrath like everyone else?

I think that it will be obvious the Rapture happened, so no believer will be able to lose heart. And when did their redemption happen? When they saw the things start to happen. Not after. Not when it was all done or half done.

Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. This verse says when we start or begin to see these things, that is when we look up for our redemption. That does seem to mean the Rapture, because if the 'things'...

I guess they look at laws in the old testament and figure they need to keep all those too, to be extra saintly, or even a Christian?

Of course. We do not want others laying heavy burdens on us that they can't lift themselves-or even if they could lift them themselves. His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

Hey Moses broke the every commandment before he got down off the mountain! :) Believing and loving Him is obeying. He wants mercy, not dutiful sacrifice. Your idea of keeping it holy and mine are likely not the same. Again, resting in the Lord need not be sitting around motionless. Maybe He...