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Okay, in attempt to shorten this dialogue I'm just going to pick a point from above and focus on it. You say that my word represents me. And I suppose it does...it represents my thoughts and my feelings. But...I am not God. My word does not go forth and create the heavens and earth when I think...

Well, I agree with you that God, who is Almighty, is One, but I cannot agree that he comes in 'parts' as you put it. I believe the bible clearly teaches that God, while one, is also 3 persons, functioning in perfect (thus one) harmony within the Godhead. That is why we see such specific...

Ha! Would it be better to know that there is a 't' missing in that sentence?? 'This' is not the Spirit of God...not 'his is not the Spirit of God'. My stupid keyboard is quite dodgy and it likes missing keys sometimes! Anyway...my point was, that while, in a real way Jesus is, of course, the...

Jesus did continue speaking, but he does not promise to come IN THE SPIRIT, he promises he will come again. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. -John 14:3 That is a physical, tangible promise. He is not...

I...think...I understood that. Your basic idea of the different heavens and the notion of body/spirit leaving corruption and coming together in the new perfect, along with a remade earth. Etc. However...what I am unsure of is....how has any of that got to do with my post asking about John 14? My...

Yes, sorry, I should have addressed these in my first post, I'll do so now: Yes, obviously the Father is God, the Father. My Father's House...well...that could either be heaven itself, or New Jerusalem. 'Mansions', undoubtably this is the New Jerusalem. And yes, that is presently in heaven...

Really can't see the point of this thread on a Christian board...but I voted in case my 'missing' it meant there was a point! I don't often wear lipstick because I don't often go places that call for it. I'd look a tad overdressed. And when I do wear lippy it's not red...not my colouring at all...

Hi! Just a quick question, because I've often wondered at this verse when Dispensationalists use it as a proof that Jesus 'must' come again and take Christians to heaven... If the verse says that Jesus comes to recieve us to where he is...doesn't that just mean that we will be where he is? And...

I do believe the Trinity is an essential doctrine, one that should be stood for. But you are right in that I do not want to fight with you over it! The bible says there is a time for everything, and I've had my say with you about the Trinity, and vise versa, for now, anyway. I think more benefit...

I agree heartily and am so glad you are tackling it head on! I've attempted on numerous occasions to show through scripture that the Trinity is a biblical doctrine, but sadly I've found that the weight of the verses that clearly paint Christ as equal to God the Father...as God himself, hold no...

With respect, we know we disagree strongly about some of the orthodox beliefs. So in that regard, for you, I suppose you do see it that way. However for those who see the Trinity as a biblical teaching (for example), the creeds and the purpose behind them did not come from apostasy, but to...

I think it a shame that people are not delving into the Church fathers more. Should we believe what they write just because they are 'old'? No...and I don't think anyone, least of all you, are suggesting we should. But to ignore and pass over centuries of wisdom that God has passed onto...

It does seem to be the clear reading of that text, doesn't it? Without the root, none of the branches, original or wild, have life at all. Oh, may I produce fruit and not be cut off from the Olive tree! And may we all pray that the original branches find their way back to belief.

Sorry to disagree, but I only mentioned it because I heard a Dispensationalist state it. Can't remember which one it was. I've been listening to Jack Hibbs, Don Stewart and Tom Hughes the last couple of months, and it was one of them. I remember it quite distinctly, because I thought "how wrong...

In regards to Covenant Theology, Replacement Theology and who the 'True Israel' is, I do wonder at the fuss that is always kicked up. I know Dispensationalists think we jettison Israel to put ourselves in their place, but I think they miss our point. Covenant Theology teaches that the point of...

My E Warren? Certainly not! I put her forward as an example of what most people accept as fact. I agree her claim is ridiculous and she is making a mockery of the Indian people. My point was that I suspect most "Jews" have more "Jewish" blood than she has "Indian" blood. And if society in...

"Foolish, stupid, most are ignorant, most morons are just blighted fools, offending fools is not a sin, they are all undeducated drongos, they know bugger all, the bastards, 3rd rate understanding, one stupid mate, brainwashed idiot fool with no hope of being educated." Oh...yes...you most...

Please do! I look forward to conversation!

Yes, some people do hate Jesus. Paul despised him. And yet he is a wonderful example of how Christ can turn hatred on its head and use that person mightily. So...is it up to us to 'judge' if someone's hate has condemned him? Or should we persevere, praying that God (and it is only God, not us...

So, you see (correct me if I'm wrong!) that the Church and Israel must be separate, so that there is, essentially, a difference between the "like a thief" return, and the anticipated 'with signs' return - the one that must come after all the tribulation events? I do understand how people see...