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  1. Wormwood

    Forgery in the Bible

    Yes, in a footnote.
  2. Wormwood

    Forgery in the Bible

    Well, your lack of being impressed does not mean it should be in there either. Disagree with my parsing? I didn't parse anything. I'll try to get to the text itself later when time permits.
  3. Wormwood

    Headcoverings for women in church

    Hey everyone, Let's try to keep the topic on the OP. This discussion should be about the issue of head covering for women and whether you think it should be practiced or not.
  4. Wormwood

    Forgery in the Bible

    You are working of some assumptions here that you are missing. First, you argue that you cant "add or take away from the Bible." Then you say that because we don't have the original autographs, we cant prove what actually belongs in the Bible (or doesn't belong). It sounds to me like...
  5. Wormwood

    Forgery in the Bible

    Unfortunately, my computer is down currently so I am on my iPad. Sorry for the delay. This is an issue of translation, not inspiration. Certainly there are good translations, and poor translations. Some translations more effectively communicate a passage than another translation. Sometimes...
  6. Wormwood

    Forgery in the Bible

    What is being determined is what was actually written by the "inspired" authors of the Bible. I dont believe in inspired translations or translators. I believe in the inspiration of the authors who originally wrote the texts.
  7. Wormwood

    I believe one who deliberately sins in not a Christian.

    horsecamp- That was funny :)
  8. Wormwood

    Forgery in the Bible

    Neither does the term "biblical scholar" imply someone who is all head knowledge with a lack of love for the Lord and the Scriptures. I think you are missing the point here. We do not have original documents from Moses, Paul, Peter, John, etc. We have copies of copies of copies. Some of...
  9. Wormwood

    Headcoverings for women in church

    These are issues of hermeneutics. Churches that do not practice head covering will usually argue that the primary issue here is a "sign of authority." It is argued that the nature of this sign is not the issue. In Paul's day, this sign of authority was head covering. Today, it may be...
  10. Wormwood

    Forgery in the Bible

    I agree with HammerStone that forgeries is an incorrect term for what is being described here. In the ancient world, there was no printing press. You had people laboriously copying by hand every letter and phrase. Many of these scribes worked for hours and hours on end by candlelight with no...
  11. Wormwood

    I believe one who deliberately sins in not a Christian.

    2 Cor. 13:5-9 - Paul links faith with obedience. However, here he makes it clear that his desire is that they move toward perfection. He does not assume perfection because they are in the faith, but wants them to evaluate their faith by their ongoing effort to live sanctified lives. Faith is...
  12. Wormwood

    I believe one who deliberately sins in not a Christian.

    ScottAU, Let me ask you, if someone intentionally lies while they are a believer, are they no longer "saved" due to their filthy behavior? I mean, God doesn't save liars right? Where do we draw the lines here and who draws them? If, due to peer pressure, depression and maybe some other...
  13. Wormwood

    1 Tim 4:10, A Special Salvation for Believers?

    digging, who are you addressing? lukethreesix, Jesus is the savior of all men as opposed to only the savior of some men. These statements are not arguing for universalism as the context of almost all the teaching and narratives of the NT show that the early preaching of the Gospel demanded...
  14. Wormwood

    Is Water Baptism Necessary for Salvation ?

    Dodo_David, Do you have some verses to validate that point? In Acts 2, people were "cut to the heart" by the message of the Gospel. However, this is not when they received the Spirit and were cleansed. Rather, Peter told them to "repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins and you...
  15. Wormwood

    1 Tim 4:10, A Special Salvation for Believers?

    I never said that aionios could not be translated as "ages" or aion as "age." I said the context determines, and most often, scholars translate the plural form as eternity. My point is that 99.99% of scholars would not agree with you. Maybe that .01% you turn to are right, but I'd say its...
  16. Wormwood

    I believe one who deliberately sins in not a Christian.

    ScottAU, Thanks for your thorough response. I don't have time to deal with the bulk of it, but I wanted to quickly say that you did qualify sin that was non-rebellious as basically that which is done due to ignorance or accident. I'll pull up the quote later if you like. My argument was that...
  17. Wormwood

    1 Tim 4:10, A Special Salvation for Believers?

    So, are you still arguing with me about the meaning of aionios? I've quoted multiple lexicons, shown you how every major translation with their thousands of linguistic scholars unwaveringly translate this word and yet you still want to debate the fact with me? One last time I will quote to you...
  18. Wormwood

    I believe one who deliberately sins in not a Christian.

    ScottAU, Remember, you will be measured according to the standard you use. I have not, and am not excusing any sin. I am saying that God forgives deliberate sin. You can continue to try to make your case by making me say things I have not said and inserting conclusions that are extreme or...
  19. Wormwood

    1 Tim 4:10, A Special Salvation for Believers?

    1. The judgment on Sodom was absolute. God destroyed every person except Lot and his family. This act of judgment was not corrective, but an absolute annihilation of the cities. What is being spoken about in Ezekiel is hundreds of years later and is comparing and contrasting the wickedness...
  20. Wormwood

    Faith in Christ or Faith in our faith.

    Yes, I know what you are passionate about. However, you were contradicting a statement I made and so I was giving rationale for why I said what I said. It would be helpful if you were following the argument or the thread before you do that. The doctrine of eternal punishment in hell claims...