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tom55- I am not judging any individual's salvation so lets not pretend I am. I am evaluating the fruit of a population that claims to be Christ-followers. Jesus said we were to do this and Paul said we were to judge those "inside the church." So if someone "claims" to be a Christian then...

tom55- I assure you I am not lacking facts. Yes, a school can be used as a church. However, our American "Christian" nation has made it VERY clear that the public education process can have nothing to do with Christ or the Bible. Now why would a "Christian" people not want Jesus taught to...

Daq- Most of those comments were given in reference to a point debated in a forum. Although I do not agree with the tone of some of them and I am not excusing them, they are very different from your comment against Retro that was simply an attack after an apology. It had nothing to do with a...

tom55, Thanks for your reply. I think it is a good thing to pray that the evil of Al-Quaeda is stopped. Hopefully it will be stopped by their repentance and coming to Christ. I think we should pray that they hear and receive the Gospel. Many of our own troops need the same prayer as a good...

Daq, If you do not have a comment about the topic of the thread, its probably best that you keep the comment to yourself. Retro apologized for the way the comments came across to Rach and that should be applauded. Let's not kick someone when they are down. These comments add nothing to the...

Pilgrimer, I appreciate your response. I must say it is much easier to follow and they were concise responses to specific statements I made. I think this will help our dialogue and, even if we do not agree, we should at least have a better understanding of each other's position. I understand...

It doesn't matter whether or not the argument originates with you in my mind. You are proposing it as a valid argument or at least one that we should give consideration. I find it deplorable and void of any Scriptural validity. I do agree with you that sins are unequal with regard to...

VOT, Your logic is so fraught with problems that it is hard to address it all here. I appreciate your heart for your friends. But since when do we classify "serious" sins as those that are "obvious" and hurt others? So can I perform benign witchcraft as long as I don't hurt anyone? Can I...

horsecamp- who are you talking to? to what are you referring?

Arnie, Do you really want to go there? I assure you I can provide you a list of about 100 obvious symbols in Revelation (including numbers) that do not say anything about "looked like" or "appeared" to indicate they are symbols. Revelation 2:10 - Everyone in the church was going to be tested...

Its also "clear" that a giant sea-dragon is going to emerge out of the sea and that angels will scoop people out of the earth with giant sickles...and in heaven Jesus will have the appearance of a wrathful four hoved creature with wool. I mean, these statements are all very "clear" and we...

Pilgrimer, I think the reason this discussion gets "tedious" is because your responses are all over the map and I am trying to summarize or key in on some of your points to make this conversation possible. Perhaps my summeries are inaccurate at times, but I cannot read your mind nor can take...

I am not saying we should not pray for our military. However, I think if we are truly to follow the commands of Scripture, we should spend even more time praying for the soldiers and citizens of the countries we are fighting rather than asking God to give us conquest. We are called to pray for...

So should we remember the civilians killed by our atomic bombs? Either way, it's not my point. My point is, should we dedicate time in worship to pay homage to soldiers? I'm not discounting that WWII was just. I just don't know that a worship service is the time or place to focus on soldier...

My personal views do not represent all the stances of this site. Can I not express personal views on debatable issues as a "moderator"?

Where does the Bible say that miracles indicate the presence of the Holy Spirit? I believe Jesus said there would be some who perform miracles to deceive though. Jesus didn't seem very happy when he was asked to do a miracle to "prove" God's presence was with him. I believe the "fruit" of the...

I am an American, and I am grateful for my freedom to worship and pray without fear of attack or persecution. However, is it right for churches to take time out of worship to God (and maybe even devote an entire Sunday) to honoring veterans? The more I think about this question, the more it...

Pilgrimer, Well, I think one issue here is that we have a tendency to create theological labels for things that were likely not intended as such. Jesus spoke of "great tribulation" or great distress that would come at the destruction of the Temple. We agree on that. However, to make "Great...

FHII, Thanks for your elaboration on these ideas. I don't know that I really agree with a few of your points though. First, repentance means to change ones living. Josephus actually uses the Greek word with regards to surrendering and joining the opposing army. Simply because we cannot live...

This conditional construction is different than the "de/ean" construction discussed before. If here is "ei" which is usually translated "if" and especially so in this case as "de" (but) is used later in the sentence as a logical connective conjunction. The verse is pretty straight forward as...