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  1. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    Hi! Sorry, I'm not sure what this is implying. Just a statement...?
  2. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    Hi Charity! Thanks for your post. I can't remember if in the OP I said that I'm actually an Amil or not...but I am...sort of. So...surprise! And, actually, I'm not the only Amil I know who sees a future for national Israel. I think that within the Amil camp there are two sorts...those who lean...
  3. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. And this is eternal life, that they...
  4. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    "changing the name doesn't change the intent"? What intent? The intent that you make no sense and have no idea of what you're speaking about? Okay, sure, I'll give you that. Or, are you saying you think there's no real difference between Vallhalla (the Viking's beliefs) and heaven (Christians...
  5. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Answering what? To the best of my knowledge, you challenged me to back up my thoughts with scripture. I did. Now you continually harp at me to answer your questions. Questions that I either don't understand, or I have already addressed. I'm sorry if my answers don't fit your expectations. How...
  6. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    So...let me sum up. You don't believe in the authority of scripture as true and absolute: the word of God. You don't believe in the Trinity. You don't believe in God, unless you can "define him first". You think that a conviction on our behalf means that we cannot know of God's existence in...
  7. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    While this is very interesting, and certainly is true in the 'grand' scheme of things, I think you are missing the context of what God is actually promising Abraham. While the word used may be the same...land/earth, we can see that God deliberately shows Abraham a boundary of land in Gen 15. As...
  8. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    @brakelite I do agree with everything you've written! I just think it doesn't exclude who 'National' Israel is...or more importantly, who they can come to be. This is why I differentiate between 'national' and 'true'. Paul helps us make that distinction. 'National' being those, now, who are...
  9. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    Some good thoughts, but, I'm not sure I can agree. Firstly, why would Satan change tactics on his dealing with the Jewish people? For all of history he has seemed intent on making them suffer and killing them. Even now, there is still demonic-like hatred focused upon them. For nothing more than...
  10. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    Hi! So...do you think that when they Jews had control over all that territory...under Solomon, for example, that was God fulfilling his promise, and a sign to them that in the future Abraham's descendants would inherit the whole earth in similar manner? Can I take it to mean 'descendants' here...
  11. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Um...Trinity. One God, Three persons. Not three separate Gods. I still have very little idea what on earth your point is here. What I expect God is going to do for me...? Well...my whole point has been what they bible says God is going to do. What God says he is going to do. That we can know...
  12. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    Well, I'm not sure I completely agree with this. On one hand, absolutely! But I'm not sure that we can say that it is all. If we consider our inheritance through Christ, then all the world belongs to Christians. And if we say that we wait until a new heavens and a new earth, then nothing...
  13. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    @101G , good answer, very thorough, thanks. However, while I do agree that as far as the elect go, there are no longer Jew or Gentile, that we have become one in Christ, I am beginning to wonder if there is, perhaps, more to it than that. And...not strictly in the sense that Dispensationalists...
  14. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Again...sarcasm...look it up. And I note that you have commented on everything except the verses I posted. Yep...I found the time. Knock yourself out.
  15. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Ok, firstly, please don't pretend that Psalm 82:6 is in anyway talking about what we are talking about. Red herring. It is nothing more than a reference to us as sons of God, heirs with Christ. My point, as you well know, but refuse to acknowledge, is that there is but one GOD. There are not...
  16. Naomi25

    Replacement Theology

    Okay...so, I know this can be a bit of a boiling point, conversation wise. And, well I'm not really posting this thread with the intent of setting off an argument. It's just something that's been bugging me for quite a while now, and...well, I want to talk about it. So, I'm Amil...although the...
  17. Naomi25

    A 1,000 Year Millennium On This Earth?

    That was quite an interesting read, brakelite, thank you.
  18. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” – Luke 23:42-43 Clearly Jesus is telling the thief that he can expect to be somewhere good when he died...that day. The Rich Man and Lazarus...
  19. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Again you seem to wander off into areas that make little to no sense. "free beer tomorrow"? Joke or not, I have no idea what you are talking about. But I suppose that matters little. You seem to be focusing on the fact that AT is only what you demonstrate or prove. Which, I get in a way, but I'm...
  20. Naomi25

    Deja Vu

    Well...you know what they say. Even Calvin wouldn't have agreed with 'Calvinism'. :p