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Yes! This is by far the most sensible way to read Revelation, is it not? It actually makes sense and straightens out the knot it once was. Alas, I don't have many more questions for you, since we seem to see eye to eye on this. Although, it is nice to converse with someone who doesn't need to...

And, of course, your view, is only your opinion also. The question becomes, whose opinion does the text seem to back more thoroughly? And I would ask, does the text mention types, or does it mention numbers, in regards to stars and sand? Does the text give you exegetical leave to insert types of...

Oh...phew! That makes much more sense and is very relieving! Sorry to blow my top there, but it truly did sound like you were going biblical! Anyway, now we can put that aside I suppose and get back to our normal differences! :p

Actually, I was referring to last time when, after all the relatively frustrating chasing of AT definitions, you couldn't actually deny that what the bible said was true after all. Oh, and that you agreed with me. Just like hope does not mean 'wish' in this instance, when we talk about our...

It's not about what you can 'demonstrate'. It never has been. Which is why you continually miss the point. Again, missing the point. You're going to say God doesn't exist because you cannot define him? Or I cannot define him? That's like a caveman saying air doesn't exist because he can't...

I've always seen 2 Thess 2 as a passage that supports this: 6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will...

Actually, yes! Which is why I get a little baffled when people climb the walls about their Millennial views. Oh...I know they say there are a heap in the OT that refer to the same time period, but I tend to believe that a strong case can be made that those references are actually referring to...

I tend to agree. How do you deal with the "binding of Satan"? I know you say it's within the spiritual world, and I'm not disagreeing, but one must still address the notion that Satan is, in some shape of form, restricted within this time frame. I'm just wondering how you go about it, as I see...

Well, yes, I suppose in a way this is true. My Grandparents were quite conservative and had traditions that were perhaps not strictly essential in biblical terms. And in a lot of ways I do agree that many people took that too far and took those traditions as law when they shouldn't have been...

Considering yourself a 'member' of the Church is not a problem. But speaking for her...making yourself a 'spokesperson' of her, along with Paul, is giving yourself the sort of authority that the bible does not afford it's members. You are essentially claiming to share the sort of experiences and...

I'm sorry....you're referring to yourself as "the Church"? Not just a member of the church, but, when speaking to me, you are actually using the pronoun to imply you are the church? Let me just break it to you. You are not Paul. Paul wrote the majority of the NT. Paul was caught up to heaven and...

I only have an idea of about half of what you just said. The rest, you could have been speaking pig latin....sorry. Firstly...who on earth (who's read the bible), actually thinks God is an old man in the sky with a beard??!! I think we can safely relegate that picture to little kids in Sunday...

Yes, I agree completely. Although...could you perhaps flesh out that last sentence a bit more? I'm not sure I've got a handle on what you mean...

Well...I don't necessarily disagree with you either! I think it's good to learn in as many different ways you can...in fact it's probably wise NOT to get all your teaching from one source. And yeah...cliquing...not good, so I get you there. And yes, I think it's good to consider other options...

Really? I don't feel this at all! To see things this way I'd have to believe that God is not sovereign. As it is, I believe he is on his throne, Christ beside him, having triumphed. So...with that understanding, it changes how you look at the current SNAFU. Things are exactly how God wants them...

Well...I'm not real sure exactly what you mean here, sorry. There gets to be a bit of confusion when throwing around the term "church" because we use it almost corporately, whereas in reality is should only refer to those within the body...actual believers. And we know that quite often people...

Well now you guys have spoiled any comment anyone could make, because we might sound full of ourselves!! So...consider this comment nothing more than a "musing" on the article, or book passage...'cause let's face it, that's what it is! I think it's focusing in on the fact that the NT does...

See...this? This I have a huge...HUGE, problem with. You say that if I believe in the sacrifice of Christ on the cross, have accepted him as my Saviour etc, that means nothing...I'm still not a "real believer" unless I believe in the "correct Rapture doctrine". I know that Christ's return is...

Well...sure, it'd be nice to see that quote. But from what scripture tells us, gathering together is just sort of assumed as both important and wanted. And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. - Acts 2:42 This is...

Very true, and I share that excitement! What I hesitate on, is mans interpretation of God's Word. There is more than one interpretation about when the Rapture takes place, for example...but they would still agree on the alignment of world events as we see them today in regards to Isaiah 17 and...