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  1. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    The timeline leads accurately to Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Things get suitably...vague, after that. You get several different schools of thought on the 'left over' time that will see us to the AC. Some say that 'timeline' stopped until the end...and good luck knowing when that will start...
  2. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I am assuming that by 'nations' you mean nationalities....there being different nationalities within every Country? And if you're going to start pulling things apart and say it's not "Countries" but 'nations', you make it almost impossible to pin down...which is good if you're trying to remain...
  3. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Speculation, nothing more. On both points.
  4. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Who's Prophetic timeline? Because as far as I can see, there are several different interpretations when it comes to the Daniel passage that speaks of the "abomination of desolation". Yous is but one, and it definitely does not exclude all others. Your theory is supposition, nothing more. To...
  5. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Well, then what on earth, was your point at all? It seems we have run full circle and are back....nowhere. Okay, you're right. Only America means anything. She is clearly the wealthiest, most powerful, most important nation to have ever existed, and no other County matters at all, has any...
  6. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Alright. But this all still assumes that: first, the Catholic Church is the harlot, and that second: Protestant denominations are more closely linked to the RCC than it would appear. Both are just supposition, really, as there are others that fit into the category of AC as well...especially if...
  7. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Sorry, I still don't follow!! Sometimes people are on such different wave lengths, aren't they?? To me, the fact that Jacob quite rightly feared the brother he cheated (who also has a posse) still has nothing to do with God's electing promises. And it doesn't change the initial 'bad behaviour'...
  8. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    That was very interesting, thank you. You know, even though I (obviously) believe what I do strongly, it doesn't mean I don't consider being wrong...even on the big issues. I mean...every single person out there with a religious belief holds the same conviction we have, and yet, everyone but 1...
  9. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Look, I apologize if it came s off as gloating...that was not my intent. What was my intent was to show that in this very, very important issue, you are not answering the questions. You make a lot of arguments based on supposition and opinion, and when I tried to pin you down on a specific...
  10. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Biblical history...Adam and Eve, redemptive history. Genesis 1:1: In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. John 1:3: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and...
  11. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Well...it gets a bit muddy. They say, as Protestant denominations....'daughter' religions under Rome, we are actually part of the Beast...the Antichrist. And if you read Revelation, there is no "coming out" of that. Pretty much, we're doomed. But Babylon seems to refer to the 'great city that...
  12. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    And....that has what to do with how Church habits were or were not formed....?
  13. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    For what? Me to spout bible verses? For what situation? This one? Well, didn't we already do the "God-breathed" one, and also bring up the whole "Berean" thing, about how important scripture is for checking what we are hearing? If you want to snort and laugh at me and ignore those...fine. Like I...
  14. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Goodness! Sound the alarm! Because every single one of them not only attend mass every Sunday, I'm sure...but they are all part of a secret society run by the RCC bent on bending the USA to do her dirty will! Next....
  15. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Again, this is because of the relationship within the Trinity. Look...if you have a good marriage, you and your wife will be equal...as in, you won't see each other as any better, or less, than the other. But as the bible lays out, there are different roles for each of you. The man is to the...
  16. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    But don't you see? This is exactly the same as what we do, only when it is us, you accuse us of being biblically illiterate and having far too much "life baggage" influencing us to be able to see straight. It's hypocrisy plain and simple. And the 'new' thing? Friend...you outright said: "When I...
  17. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I don't follow...what do we read later? I see the bible saying this: “I have loved you,” says the Lord. But you say, “How have you loved us?” “Is not Esau Jacob's brother?” declares the Lord. “Yet I have loved Jacob 3 but Esau I have hated. I have laid waste his hill country and left his...
  18. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Do I think they exist? Sure. I'm sure they are also powerful and wealthy. But...how was it put...? See all those bits in bold? Foolishness. Nothing controls everything, unless we're talking about God. And ALL secret societies controlled by the Papacy? Really? And Protestants are too afflicted...
  19. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Yep, as I thought...you can't actually denounce Paul and what he says. Although, given your 'logic pretzels' with some other verses, I must say I am surprised you didn't try.
  20. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Oh please! Only someone trying with some desperation to find anything to support and idea already held would come up with something like this. It is a completely unnatural reading of the scripture and what it intends. The intellectual gymnastics is, I'll admit, intriguing to watch, but quite...