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  1. Naomi25

    An interesting question.......

    Hi Willie...seriously great, and interesting question you've posed here! I think you are very right... there is no reason at all that we, children of God, who have the Holy Spirit, cannot shape the world into a better place. The real question would be... why is it not happening? And I think...
  2. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Oh my yes, much speculation. But...read my posts that I just put up, they give you my replies on this "covenant of sacrifice". No point going over it again. You're still missing the point totally. It's different, isn't it, to be willing to die for something, if you need to, and having to die...
  3. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    And.... now we're just not seeing eye to eye at all. Tell me this: if the New Covenant has not come to the Gentiles yet, why was Paul taking it to them? (1 Cor 11:25, 2 Cor 3:6). Plus, let us consider for a moment. The New Covenant is made in Jesus blood: And likewise the cup after they had...
  4. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    This Psalm is interesting, isn't it. Because it does speak of 'covenant', but we do not see, any time before it, when such a "covenant of sacrifice" was specifically instigated. This is widely believed to be because this 'covenant of sacrifice' that God speaks of is not favors that people bestow...
  5. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Wow. What an incredibly...interesting way, to tell me I know nothing. Of course, I'd beg to differ, I'd just say I understand it somewhat differently. Ah...no. No there is no mention of "heavenly seed" in this verse or this covenant. The covenant promise is to multiply Abraham's seed, his...
  6. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    And, you completely missed my point. I don't particularly care what you designate yourself as. My point was that you are designating us incorrectly. Just because we choose to come under a "label" as such, does not mean that we worship that organization. That is a total misunderstanding and...
  7. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    No. This is a broad categorization that does not do justice to anyone. It is far more complicated than that and you know it. I don't know if you categorize yourself as an SDA, but if you do, I'd hazard a guess you find yourself under a fair bit of fire simply because of that label. But the label...
  8. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Actually, no, sorry! It has to do with Daniel's prayer to God and it's covenantal nature, and then God's response in the 70 weeks prophecy. Daniel, while praying to God about the exile Israel is currently in, reminds God of His covenantal faithfulness. And Gabriel's reply also assumes a...
  9. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Ummm. Not sure I agree that we enter into a "covenant of sacrifice". When we put our faith in Christ, we enter into the New Covenant in his blood...the covenant of grace. Hebrews 9:12 tells us that his sacrifice secured for us "eternal redemption". Romans 3:24 says that such grace and redemption...
  10. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Well...the Pope may understand you grievance is with him...but, do do the individuals? I wonder if the time is taken to try and separate out what it is the Pope does and supports, as opposed to the people? Because as it stands, I think when they see you attacking the RCC in general, or the Pope...
  11. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I suspect my using of the term, and your using of the term, Dispensationalist, is different. Yours is probably more accurate, as I use mine to describe the group of people who believe in the 'secret rapture' before the 7 year Tribulation. Usually that's how they identify themselves. I would...
  12. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I'm not sure what you're getting at here, sorry. I don't disagree on those dates...I don't think I ever did. I think my point has been...there are plenty of people...bible believing people who do hold different ideas about the dates. You may disagree with them and how they arrived at their...
  13. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Well...what say I is something you probably heartily disagree with! I lean towards an Amillennial position. Which means I see the prophecy of Daniel's 70 weeks to be more symbolic in representing the Ultimate Jubilee of God. However...if I was forced to put my vote behind what you are talking...
  14. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Yes, but, all Dispensationalist ARE futurists, are they not? And, while Dispensationalism might be loosing numbers, they still are quite prevalent. I know Historical Premil's are there too, but do they hold to dispensations of time? I'm not sure. I don't know of any Preterist who hold to...
  15. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Okay...at this point I just have to laugh, because it has gotten so bizarre! I do think, bby, that you and I talk 2 different languages! You see, I would say that "my Kingdom is not of this world" would mean...you know...it's not of this world. That's why Jesus said that no-one from here (his...
  16. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    And Politics!
  17. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Well, I'm referring to the prophecy of 70 weeks, specifically. I know that mostly it's futurist (Dispensationalists) who hold that the last week of 7 is yet to come, but I believe that there is some variance within the school of historicism when it comes to Daniel's vision of the seventy weeks...
  18. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Oh, come on! How on earth do you think that passage would change, or not be true at all times and places? "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible." Are you saying that Jesus is...
  19. Naomi25

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Yes. Although I think events are hovering at present that could challenge that if they were to tip one way or the other. But my remark on speculation was that...unless the Bible outright names your Country, then it all must be speculation. It has to be. It could be speculation based on strong...