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That is basically my line of reasoning--the other side does well to trust God as Savior, but, in the process, they also discount and wave away certain doctrines of that same God, which thing I see as being completely unreasonable and unjustifiable. I've spoken with many of them at length, and...

Real science WOULD be able to detect an aberration--"I observe this man is, contrary to design, inserting his penis into another man's anus! Something has gone terribly wrong with him!" The issue is with the scientists--they themselves cannot be trusted with adjudicating anything, having had...

The Sword cuts both ways--the devil was trying for the longest time to deceive me about this, but God's Word saves, makes the devil's lies apparent. "Defilement!" Once God lets us call it what it is, then there is rest in the truth.

God, being our Creator, knows what we are, and what is best for us. Leviticus 18 20You shall not have intercourse with your neighbor’s wife, to be defiled with her. Culture (ie, "reason" and "experience"--the "sand" upon which the Johnny-Come-Lately false "Christians" build their houses) will...

It just shows the sexual ethic of God--even under Torah, which was imperfect--which was transmitted through Jesus and His Apostles to the rest of the disciples. Ephesians 5 3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints. Unmarried...

The "proof of her virginity" referred to would have been the sheet on which she would have bled after her first sexual encounter with her husband--without this, and barring any other explanation, it was assumed she had actually been guilty of fornication, pre-marital sex, and would have been...

:Laughingoutloud: Has anyone seen the debates on this issue? The gays get torn to shreds. They don't even debate this stuff anymore--not as widely as it used to be debated a few years back. They've already been publicly humiliated. Examples:

:Laughingoutloud: At 41:47 of your own video, the guy admits "...if you focus on Scripture and tradition, you're going to come out with a more Conservative understanding of various moral issues, including same sex relations; if you look at reason and experience, you're going to come out with a...

From the beginning of Christianity, we've been unanimous on sexual ethics. These Johnny Come Latelies are irrelevant--we've known about their coming for a long time. 2 Timothy 4 2For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for...

1. I believe the same--one must act as if what they say they believe is what they actually believe. 2. The Bible refers to past-tense salvation (eg, 1 Co 10; Ep 2), current ongoing salvation (eg, 2 Cor 2:15), and future tense salvation (Ro 5)--none of these nullifies the other, they're all true.

Yeah, there's even a word for it : "fornication". Under the Law of Moses, fornicators were put to death.

Anyone who doesn't know the Scriptures condemn homosexuality, and that it only condones heterosexual marital sex--and, in the New Covenant, where God gets His way, between one man and one woman, as it was in Genesis--and nothing else, just doesn't want to know. The information is there.

Off topic, as noted. There are basically two sides you can take in this discussion : 1) You are saved by grace through faith, and you do not work for salvation--you do good works because you are saved. 2) You are saved by grace through faith, and God expects you to walk in faith afterward...

Jesus was a Jew. What does the Torah say? Many issues were in dispute then, but homosexuality being an abomination wasn't disputed. That's something new.

I've heard lots of arguments for and against the idea of Jesus's divinity, and I find many of them, on either side, convincing--eg, no man has seen God at any time, yet many have seen Jesus, so how can Jesus be God? Whether Jesus is divine or not, He will make clear, and I will believe whatever...

In the OT Scriptures, God is "husband" to His people; in the NT Scriptures, Jesus is "husband" to God's people. How can that be unless Jesus is God? However, you're not to hijack threads. The discussion here is not necessarily the definition of "obey" (eg, whether believing Jesus is God...

So you're saying you're on topic bc you're agreeing with the OP (we must walk in faith to be saved, ultimately), and you're adding that part of walking in faith is believing that Jesus is not God?

BTW That avatar is funny lol I'm pro 2A so I'm not laughing "at" it, it's just funny.

The topic is not whether Jesus is God. Why don't you start your own thread on that topic? Why do you have to crash someone else's thread and take it off the rails? Why do you have to be disorderly?

Yup... "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure." Php 2:12,13 They say "God does the...