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  1. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Yup, I believe all of Scripture, not just little slivers of it, like you do.
  2. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    People must reap the harvest of eternal life by doing good deeds (Gal 6:6-10). People must be repaid eternal life for their good deeds (Ro 2:6-16). Again, Scripture teaches both--you accept only one, and reject the other.
  3. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    You're free to address anything I've stated in order to prove this assertion. You should start with how you deny being thrown in the fire is a salvific issue. I won't hold my breath. LOL
  4. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Yep, it is by righteousness that we have it as a gift--the righteousness of God by grace through faith. It is kept by grace through faith--we are not under Law we are under Grace. That is, Grace and faith is the way we serve today (Ro 6:14, 7:6; Gal 5:6). When we walk in faith we are revealing...
  5. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Throughout this discussion, you've proven you have exactly zero things "right"--that is, not that you have zero truth, but that you have zero complete truth. You have some truth, and you have eternal life, but your explications of the Scripture are utterly lacking. You believe a little saying...
  6. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    You have no justification for your unbelief. Romans 2 6who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: 7to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey...
  7. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Again, there is no mutual exclusivity between eternal life being a gift and being a repayment for good deeds (Ro 2:6-16; Gal 6:6-10). Both are stated, so both are true. The difference between us is that you accept one sliver of Scripture, and I accept it all.
  8. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    By the way, I'm not even slightly insinuating that anyone who disagrees with me is not abiding in Christ, because "we have known and believed the love of God for us" is the greatest part of how we abide, which is what all my detractors (@mailmandan @Eternally Grateful and yourself) are wanting...
  9. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    All those who abide in Him will experience these things at His appearance, but we're also warned that some do not abide because they're led away by idols (1 Jn 2:28, 5:21)--as in Ezekiel 20:16 "because they rejected My ordinances, and as for My statutes, they did not walk in them; they even...
  10. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    As I see it, you did not present the Scripture, and I'm fine with disagreeing.
  11. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    No, justification isn't one-and-done, because Ro 14:23 says the Christian who doesn't walk in faith is "condemned", which is why James 2 says we are "justified" by walking in faith (it's gotta be one or the other--you're going to be alive, so the question is as to whether you're going to be...
  12. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Jesus's righteousness remains forever--that's never been contested--but not all remain in Him, as has been discussed at length here. No one is debating the viability of the Seed, only that we are told "Remain in Me and My Words in you"--and not all remain in Him, and when this is the case, His...
  13. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    1. Does a branch that doesn't abide get thrown in the fire? Yes, because God is faithful to His Word that He will throw them in the fire if they don't bear fruit because they're not abiding. God hasn't failed then. God has succeeded at being faithful to His Word. 2. How can God be said to have...
  14. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    I understand you're dealing with the language, and I accept your breakdown of the language--I have no gripe with it at all--and I'm saying without understanding God can forget righteousness, you're exactly understanding the language, but you're missing a tool for interpreting the language. If...
  15. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    There really is no "connection" there. #1 You said all were in Adam, and were in the Book. #2 You said when someone sins they're blotted out they're spiritually dead. #3 If this is the case, only young children are in the Book, then are blotted out when they gain the knowledge of good and...
  16. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    And not remaining results in being thrown in the fire. Those are the two options. Christ pays for our sin--but the servant who doesn't go and do the same has his forgiveness revoked. His faith is forgotten.
  17. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Uh, nope, we are told "obey for it is God working in you", so it is God working, and we are called to work with that working.
  18. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The alternative to holding fast is provided in Heb 3: "hardened by the deceitfulness of sin" "fall away from the living God"--Heb 10 "for you have need of endurance so that after you have done the will of God you can receive what was promised".
  19. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The action completed with enduring effect is still conditioned--IF you continue. What happens if you don't continue? Your "righteousness of faith" is forgotten (Ez 3:20)--that "history" retroactively never occurred.
  20. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Nope, to be, "clothed" with Him, His righteousness, we must abide--the little children are told "abide so you won't draw back in shame at His appearance", and it is said that the Laodiceans were "naked", and Rv 16:15 speaks of "the shame of their nakedness". Again, it's not a one-and-done...