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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes it does! Christ and the Father are ONE according to His words. John 10:30 (KJV) I and my Father are one. John 1:1-4 (KJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    No, God did not change Jesus' nature when He became human. Christ NEVER ceased being indwelt with the Holy Spirit which is what made Him fully God as well as being fully human without sin.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes, God prepared the body of flesh & bones with a spirit that gave His body life for Christ to inhabit while clothed in human flesh on this earth. His body was prepared through the Holy Spirit that He was procreated through.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Flesh & bones cannot inherit the Kingdom of God in heaven, neither can corruption and I would add nor do mortal beings. The Kingdom of God is heaven above the heavens we see with natural sight. Heaven is the dwelling habitation of spirit beings, angels of God, and the spirits of just men made...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    While I agree spirits can possess a human body, and Jesus was not possessing the body He was in. Yes, Jesus was fully human. But what you do not acknowledge is that Jesus was procreated/conceived by God, the Holy Spirit. Being fully human Jesus was flesh & bones, and He had a spirit that gave...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Let me first say that I am not saying anything to you to be offensive. If it comes off that way it is not intentional so please accept my apologies. I'm going to try to say this one more time another way. I believe that Paul is teaching that when those who are in Christ die, our natural...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    The spiritual body of Christ in heaven is non-material. It shall be as spirit beings in heaven, celestial/heavenly without a body, but not without life. It will be a spirit or living soul. The body Christ appeared in after His resurrection was not a spiritual body. His body was human with...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I can only go by what is written. In Gen 2 God said He formed man's body of flesh & bones from the dust of the earth, and breathed life (which is spirit) into His created being. And that man became a living soul. Body + spirit = living soul. Two parts that together create life, and that...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Here is the reason the body of Christ is told to judge human messengers of God. Not all are called to be human messengers from God. For that reason we are to judge those who come to us as having a message from God, but in reality, are false witnesses. Since we are called to judge those who say...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I don't want to know what you believe SI, I want to know what you can prove through the Scriptures. I have NOT low expectations of what God has promised His own. You continue to believe what you assume and cannot prove. The problem as I see it, is that on one hand you say you believe death of...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    It's reading our assumptions into the Word of God! Because it's reading our assumptions into the Word of God. This is reading your assumptions into the Word of God. Adam and Eve, being created very good could not have been very good if they were weak. Humanity became subject to weak bodies...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Since angel is translated as both human messengers of God as well as heavenly beings, I believe the context tells us that the body of Christ corporately should be able to judge one another in the smallest and greatest of matters, rather than submitting judgment for the body to those who are...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Why would our resurrected bodies that shall be immortal & incorruptible not be subject to the laws of gravity and other laws of nature as we are now? There is no evidence that A&E were not subjected to laws of gravity and other natural laws. Why would we not be like them, since in the...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Paul doesn't say our bodies resurrected and changed shall be glorious and powerful, with capabilities far beyond what we have now. That is your assumption, because you think our resurrected physical bodies shall be spiritual bodies. And to your mind spiritual beings will have powers like that...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I know it from the creation account in Genesis. The outer man was created flesh and bones, with the breath of life (spirit) from God breathed into them and man became a "living soul". Since God created humans with flesh and bones and gave them a spirit (breath of life), why would I imagine God...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Adam was created, as all humans are now born, with body + spirit and declared "living souls." It is the spirit in Adam that gave his physical body life. But Adam had one advantage over all of his progeny. Through his spirit that gave his body life he could have lived forever if he had not...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    Instead of trying to learn biblical truth from pagan ideas, why not simply allow Scripture to show us where our spirit goes when our body dies. Those who died in faith, as did Lazarus, was carried by the angels to a place called Abraham's bosom. That certainly does not imply the realm of the...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    What does Paul mean when he says when our natural body dies it is raised a spiritual body? If the dead are not raised a spiritual body after our body dies, then Paul would be correct in saying "they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished" (1Cor 15:18). But Paul argues for the...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes, I understand what you mean, every human body, including the body of Christ is destined to die. Which of course He did die physically. And because human bodies shall not be immortal until the last trumpet sounds and the bodies of the saints are raised and changed to immortal &...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Since Christ was indeed fully human, would He not also be fully immortal in human form from birth since He was conceived by the Holy Spirit?